Pirelli

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Sods law says that you drop that set and then it's needed. Personally I'm 100% against single tyre suppliers and limited compounds. It completely takes the magic out of tyre selection and makes for more monotonous racing.

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If you know your motorsport a tyre war can have the same effect when a superior tyre can be in a league of its own. Eg. Rossi jumping to Bridgestones in MotoGP.

Great read for a laugh, Formula 1 teams get reduced camber limit for the Italian Grand Prix at Monza - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com :

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Originally Posted by PH for autosport.com

"We've given slightly reduced limits to be slight more cautious," he told AUTOSPORT. "From the data we've seen, Monza is likely to be in some regards similar in severity to Spa. However, we will obviously have some dry running for once judging by the forecast – and with more cautious limits we will be fine.

"We couldn't go any more conservative than the limit we have set, because then you could have a problem in the curves with the camber not recovering. We have to be careful with these things, but we believe we've set a reasonable level for the teams to be at."

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Which means they have no clue about exactly what they expect from their tires this coming week end and they reduced the recommended camber angle as much as possible.

Some more fun from the same source

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"Teams pushing the limits probably occurs at a lot of races, it is part of normal procedures, but what you end up doing when you find problems [like blisters] is you end up modifying the set-up and sorting it. Nobody could see it in Belgium because it rained throughout practice, so a lot of circumstances were involved there.

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Yeah, F1 teams probably push the limits Mr. Funny Tire Guy, it was about time you discovered it too. LOL

And then the corporate hogwash:

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"That didn't help us and it didn't help Red Bull Racing, but we are not having an argument with them and they are not having an argument with us."

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Vettel's discussion with the Pirelli engineer on the grid before the Spa race looked very friendly to Mr. Hembery:
sebastian vettel mario isola pirelli spa belgium - YouTube

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For all their defaults, whatever those might have been, Bridgestone didn't talk this much rubbish.

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Originally Posted by ioan

I would never put Pirelli's on my car, Dunlop and Michelin are much better.

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Well I'd never put either of them on mine :andrea: :laugh:

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Originally Posted by ioan

For all their defaults, whatever those might have been, Bridgestone didn't talk this much rubbish.

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Bridgestone never had to work within the kind of constraints Pirelli do now, but were still perfectly capable of coming up with rubbish where their competition were concerned, when they had competition.

Although you are enjoying having a go at Pirelli, your argument should be directed at the FIA. It is the FIA who wanted a single tyre supplier. It is the FIA who have dictated the type of tyres Pirelli have to produce. Yes, Pirelli signed up to the deal but they have done exactly what was asked of them.

Don't like the results? Blame the FIA.

That's really it in a nutshell ioan. You can't blame Pirelli for doing what they were asked to do.

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Originally Posted by donKey jote

Well I'd never put either of them on mine :andrea: :laugh:

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Cause you get free Contis?

This guy told me he loves Pirelli tyres.

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

Bridgestone never had to work within the kind of constraints Pirelli do now, but were still perfectly capable of coming up with rubbish where their competition were concerned, when they had competition.

Although you are enjoying having a go at Pirelli, your argument should be directed at the FIA. It is the FIA who wanted a single tyre supplier. It is the FIA who have dictated the type of tyres Pirelli have to produce. Yes, Pirelli signed up to the deal but they have done exactly what was asked of them.

Don't like the results? Blame the FIA.

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Can anyone show us those requirements to make crap tires everyone keeps shouting around about? Or at least give some details about what was requested? I won't hold my breath given that these never existed. After all Michelin were pushing hard to use their Sport Prototype tires if they were to win the bid and those are not tires that last 10 laps at most, those can run 4 to 6 hours on LMP1 cars.

And when did Bridgestone come with flops like Pirelli is providing now? Care to give a few examples out of their long F1 presence? I guess not.

Anyway what would Pirelli do without gullible F1 fans? I guess you guys are good for something too.

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Originally Posted by ioan

And when did Bridgestone come with flops like Pirelli is providing now? Care to give a few examples out of their long F1 presence? I guess not.

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They did, at the start of 2009. Remember theat year's Australian GP when Vettel crashed into Kubica when the tyres degraded in the last stint.

There was a backlash and back to normalcy after a few races.

Last year started off badly in Bahrain but it was until Canada with the severe tyre wear produced an exciting race was there a call for B'stones to replicate further races with higher tyre wear. B'stone would not commit due to costs.

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Originally Posted by ioan

Cause you get free Contis?

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No, because I know which ones are better :D

And unfortunately now when it counts, after years of getting free donkey 15" wheels, we don't get free Contis anymore :dozey: