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So when they come down one at a time with paintball guns, they are being heavy handed? I think the guys beating the soldiers with iron bars and tossing them down an extra deck or two were the radicals..Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki
Israel would deserve full condemnation if they did what the North Koreans do, just torpedo the ship. Instead, they had a/c in the rooms they planned to hold anyone in if they captured anyone.
Sometimes a fiasco starts with the fanatics.....
This latest bit wont help Isreal, but as the facts come out, it is clear the people on the ship wanted something to happen and they provoked the soldiers. The blockade has been around for a while, and this a provocation to start something, and Israel, naively I say walked into it in a sense.
As for the Turk's, they know damned well Israel isn't the problem in the Middle East, and were allies with them for years until the current pro Muslim leaders came to power. This ship and its people shouldn't have 9 dead, but when the Israeli soldiers board the ship the way they did with PAINTBALL Guns...it was clear that this was NOT to be some human rights issue....but somehow things got out of hand...
According to the peace activists, the "iron bars" claimed by the Israelis were wooden sticks. You can't tell a difference between an iron bar and a wooden stick in an Israeli shot Youtube video. "Tossing soldiers down an extra deck or two" is also only an Israeli claim. Besides, those soldiers had no business to be on the ship anyway, so they can blame themselves if the peace activists defended themselves. And paintball guns don't kill at least ten people, so the soldiers had hard bullets as well. If there was an independent investigation, which there won't be, it would show that those people didn't die by paintball guns.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa
Stupidity has just rewards, and the activists got just rewards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa
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Originally Posted by Eki
No business? International law allows naval vessels or units to inspect ships heading to lands with legal blockades. Careful now...
Your opinion is noted, but your proof is just your opinion or that who would oppose this no matter what. AS for them having real guns, well duuh...they did have those when their guys were getting beaten to a pulp. At some point, the gloves would come off. You cannot escape though the reality the people on board thought nothing of attacking these guys with clubs and sticks and bars so they didn't come down the rope with guns drawn and shooting.
AGain, if Israel is the evil entity you think they are, they just would have sunk the ship....I am still waiting your condemnation for sinking that South Korean frigate...or for the condemnation for the massacre of Muslims by radical groups in Pakistan...
The blockade of Gaza is not legal, it's a "medieval siege", like the UN called it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa
So, why do Americans make such a big fuss over their own military deaths?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Riebe
Did you post a condemnation somewhere? Well run for the hills! Mark's a North Korean sympathiser!!!!!!! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa
You could say the same about the American military deaths.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Riebe
Eki, Don't look at these videos if you want to continue thinking it's all lies. These soldiers were beaten half to death. The soldier thrown from the deck is a major and a squad leader in that force. He was stabbed in the abdomen and then thrown two stories. After that he just plucked the knife out and jumped into the water so they couldn't kill him. I want to know how you would react had you been beaten and stabbed by a mob like that. The soldiers were so unprepared for things to get so violent they only started defending themselves after eight of them were very close to being killed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki
The videos Eki shouldn't see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buzOWKxN2co
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwbCt...eature=related