Rallye France Alsace 2013

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Originally Posted by Mirek

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Originally Posted by drive

you must be joking - Ogier has dominated all year... if to take him out of this year competition, then your remarks has some sence as no other clear winner has emerged from the rest. But anyhow - rally NOT FINNISHED YET! ;)

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I'm not joking. Loeb and Ogier competed 3x this season against each other and Loeb although retired won twice. Now it's fourth time and everything looks like Loeb will win again. Maybe now You understand what I or NOT mean. It's not about the others being beaten in the championship by either one of the two but about the fights of the two.

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In any duel the challenger cedes choice of ground to the challenged. Loeb however has chosen the ground for the 4 duels so this was bound to be in his favour. As for being 'retired' , he hasn't exactly been sitting in his mansion gorging on foie gras and pinot noir while making a ship in a bottle!! He was always going to win MC against a team doing its first rally, I count Mexico and Sweden as the 2 real competitions - 1 apiece. Alsace and Loeb is like Loix and Ypres or Ucci and Sanremo. While Ogier has hit a problem this morning it is very interesting that Latvala has maintained the speed he revealed in Germany. This has a long way to go but I congratulate the new (and worthy) champ and hope that If Loeb wins he is doing it against close competition - a memorable way to bow out - Chapeau l'artitste

edit: Of course I meant Argentina not Mexico - doh!

Funny how some people always feel the need to minimize the performance of Loeb. People should do that in every sport... "Usain Bolt made another world record? That's not so special, there were only few people to compete against... And he probably had the best shoes!"

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Originally Posted by tommeke_B

Funny how some people always feel the need to minimize the performance of Loeb. People should do that in every sport... "Usain Bolt made another world record? That's not so special, there were only few people to compete against... And he probably had the best shoes!"

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I completely agree, though Loeb hasn`t been just sitting around it`s still 5months away from rallying and close to a year away from a proper tarmac rally. I like to see anybody else manage this!
And don`t forget how many mileages he hasn`t done rally testing compared to others. As well as Hirvonens comments that Citroen is behind VW in development. That`s just blown out of the window at the moment.
All credit to Ogier who`s a worthy champion but there`s still along way before we can even compare him to Loeb in my opinion..

Suaréz out?

All i can say is. Loeb used to win cleaning the road for all. That i call a pro

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Maybe the Loeb and Ogier issue should be handled in another topic, I dont know.

So back to Rallye de France Alsace:

What about the performance of Evans, Kubica, Tidemand?

Suarez rolled at the very beginning of the last stage

2.5 days of pain still... just be patient everything will be over soon...

still long way to go though, i would like Neuville to win here... It would be a disaster for the championship for Loeb to make the girls cry once more...maybe.

Anybody can say what they want. Loeb is one of the fastest drivers on tarmac. Last week hr won a fia gt race on a mclaren. Perfect training for rally de france.

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Originally Posted by Rallyper

What about the performance of Evans, Kubica, Tidemand?

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Shame about Evans problem, because Kubica doesn't need to push anymore.