another school shooting in U.S. of A. :(

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Originally Posted by henners88

And here is me with the old fashioned deadlock on the front door, burglar alarm with activated zones and a phone by my bed lol.


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Some of us have far more faith in our own ability to protect ourselves than the police department on the other end of that line. Obviously you have never been the victim of a violent home invasion.

I found this article very telling and serious.
It's serious stuff.

'I Am Adam Lanza's Mother': When Parents Are Afraid of Their Children
http://healthland.time.com/2012/12/1...their-children

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Originally Posted by Rollo

Gun deaths in rapid decline since buyback - National - smh.com.au
The new report, titled Australia's 1996 Gun Law Reforms: Faster Falls in Firearm Deaths, Firearm Suicides and a Decade without Mass Shootings, finds that in the 18 years before the gun buyback there were an average of 492 firearm suicides a year.
After the introduction of the buyback scheme, that figure dropped to 247 in the seven years for which reliable figures are available.

Perhaps most telling is the statistic from 2011:
Homicide and related offences:
Homicide - with firearms: 30
(source) - 1301.0 - Year Book Australia, 2012

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Actually, the current stats are a bit misleading Rollo, because much of the murders since 1996 resulted from the drug wars and many of them were caused by gangsters killing each other(read Carl Williams vs Morans), gangsters killing police (Walsh St murder) by Victor Pierce, and also Benji Veniamin who was a henchman of Carl Williams who was killed by Mick Gatto. I do remember one guy recently who was off his nutter about 3 years ago,who chased two associates into a park off Lygon St and killed them. Most of the shootings these days (and they are a regular occurrence), are bikies/drugs related. But we don't have these machine gun random killings here since 1996. If you guys google the above namesand/or UNDERBELLY, it makes for a very interesting read.

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Originally Posted by Valve Bounce

Actually, the current stats are a bit misleading Rollo, because much of the murders since 1996 resulted from the drug wars and many of them were caused by gangsters killing each other

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That would suggest that the rest of society is even safer because gangsters and organised crime tends to add to the rates of homicide.

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Originally Posted by nigelred5

Some of us have far more faith in our own ability to protect ourselves than the police department on the other end of that line. Obviously you have never been the victim of a violent home invasion.

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Do you have an incompetent police department or is society so violent, that you've crossed the line that they literally can not do their job anymore?

That rather tells the story then doesn't it? If one has never been the victim of a violent home invasion, then that says that they society is safer based on the very small scope of evidence.
I would prefer to live in Mr Henners88's town than yours.

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

If you are ignorant of the facts why do you insist on commenting?

One more time.

What you call "Assault" weapons are just mean looking guns and Automatic rifles are heavily regulated, cost 1000's of dollars and require a F.B.I. background Check along with permission from the local constabulary.


OK Nobody is walking down to the local gun shop and walking out with a machine gun. Got it?

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Gun shows?

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Originally Posted by Rudy Tamasz

Gun shows?

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I am astonished how anthonyvop has no idea what is happening at the gun shows, where sellers can be unlicenced and can sell to anyone without any permit. This is the loophole that some Democrat senators are trying to block. I don't blame anthony, I first found out about it in the Baldacci books.

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Originally Posted by Rudy Tamasz

Gun shows?

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Bingo! You don't even need to show identification, and it's cash only.

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Originally Posted by Starter

I am sure that you will be able to hold the criminal at bay with a rousing chat, while waiting for the police to respond from the alarm or phone call. ;)

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Over here I doubt said criminal would carry a gun, but hey ho.

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Originally Posted by nigelred5

Some of us have far more faith in our own ability to protect ourselves than the police department on the other end of that line. Obviously you have never been the victim of a violent home invasion.

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No, and the thought has never crossed my mind that one might occur, because I don't live in a constant state of fear.

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Over here I doubt said criminal would carry a gun, but hey ho.

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You never know. anthonyvop might be on another of his legendary European sojourns.