People Power

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Originally Posted by 555-04Q2

The protests we are seeing are from the "have nots" complaining about how much the "haves" have. I don't understand why? If you want what they have, go out and get it for yourself, don't protest and complain. There have to be poor people and rich people in our society. It's sad but true. You either make yourself one of the rich, or you remain poor.

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Not at all. If somebody provides goods or services they have every right to expect to make a profit on them. What I deplore is when people or corporations amass so much power that they can influence politicians and judiciary to sculpt or interpret laws in such a way as to stifle competition.

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Originally Posted by chuck34

For all of you that are proposing that an income gap is some sort of tragedy, I have one simple question ... How do you propose we "fix" this problem?

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Given the level of self interest committed to maintaining what we have it's hard to envision a fix.

Meanwhile:

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The wealth gap between younger and older Americans has stretched to the widest on record

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News from The Associated Press

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Originally Posted by Dave B

What I deplore is when people or corporations amass so much power that they can influence politicians and judiciary to sculpt or interpret laws in such a way as to stifle competition.

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That is called success!

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Originally Posted by 555-04Q2

That is called success!

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So in order to influence political change people need to work hard, become wealthy, buy political influence and so stifle competition which in turn helps them gain more money and more influence...?

Until then there's always democracy I suppose :p

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

Given the level of self interest committed to maintaining what we have it's hard to envision a fix.

Meanwhile: News from The Associated Press

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So you have absolutely no ideas, proposals, solutions. Just more b!tching and moaning. Great, just what we needed, thanks for the input. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by chuck34

So you have absolutely no ideas, proposals, solutions. Just more b!tching and moaning. Great, just what we needed, thanks for the input.

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The idea appears to be get rich and buy influence then you can change things, until then quit moaning.

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

The idea appears to be get rich and buy influence then you can change things, until then quit moaning.

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Where does moaning get you?

Why do you seem to be against hard work, educating yourself, doing everything you can personally do to get ahead in life?

Honestly, since you refuse to answer my simple question (What would you do to "fix" the problem of income gaps?), I am left to speculate. My speculation turns to something along the lines that you want someone (government?) to do something (confiscate wealth?) about it. If it is that, how is that fair. If you have other ideas, please correct my misconception.

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Originally Posted by chuck34

My speculation turns to something along the lines that you want someone (government?) to do something (confiscate wealth?) about it. If it is that, how is that fair. If you have other ideas, please correct my misconception.

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No confiscation of wealth but for example: how about start by paying their fair share of taxes and deny their special loopholes that permit them to cut curves that precisely protect them from again, contributing their fair share of taxes:

Thirty Of America's Most Profitable Companies Paid 'Less Than Zero' In Income Taxes In Last 3 Years

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Thirty Of America's Most Profitable Companies Paid 'Less Than Zero' In Income Taxes In Last 3 Years: Report

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Originally Posted by 555-04Q2

That is called success!

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So you too have no objection to the endless march of the big chains on the high street, even if it brings about bland corporate uniformity everywhere one goes?

What a depressing world some people seem to want to live in.

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Originally Posted by chuck34

Why do you seem to be against hard work, educating yourself, doing everything you can personally do to get ahead in life?

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I have worked hard and educated myself, and haven't done badly. I still side with the protesters. What exactly is your point?

You seem to have one definition of 'getting ahead in life' only — it has to be within the corporate system as it stands. At no time have you ever considered that some people might find the modern corporate world a depressing, not to say sometimes worrying, entity?