New car news!!

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Originally Posted by Starter

Close finishes out of pack, foot to the floor 100% of the time, racing is neither exciting or interesting. Real competition where the winner earned the victory instead of who got the best draft in the last lap and a half will help attract old fans back and earn new ones.

The new car's speed seems to be problematical at best, so that is something that won't get solved this year. Speed alone is not the answer. Look at the old CanAm. Those were the fastest (non drag) racing cars around. Faster than F1. Didn't help. You need the whole package and not just one part.

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Originally Posted by SarahFan

Your definition is subjective

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Originally Posted by garyshell

And your's is not???

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Originally Posted by SarahFan

What's subjective about a new track record?

Seriously Gary pay attention.... I'm saying the sport is in the dumper and the new car solves nothing.... It will garner not a single new viewer or attendee

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I am paying attention. And you? Who said a new track record was subjective? Starter and I are saying track records are not the definition of competiton. I am saying your using it to define what is needed to improve the sport is HIGHLY subjective. I really don't think it matters one bit. I think there are much more important things to entice the fans. Records is not one of them.

Gary

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Originally Posted by SarahFan

Your being silly...

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If your definition of "silly" is calling out fallacies in your logic, then I am guilty as charged.

Gary

How slow do I needto type

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Originally Posted by SarahFan

How slow do I needto type

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Oh, I don't know, maybe slow enough that you actually hit all the intended keys.

Gary

* just shaking my head and walking away

Point is that completive racing real passing won't garner a single new eyeball... Look no further than your spec miata series..

You have to I've them reason to tune (back) in

They just are not going to tune back in until we give up worrying about/trying to get them to tune in.... My fault with the new car and the philosophy behind it is that it tries to recapture the past, which it cannot do (as Ken point's out - it is too slow etc.). What the new car CAN do (as Gary and Starter seem to think) is improve the racing (which is not nearly as bad a many seem to think). Improved racing is a god step toward building a better long term fan base - but it will not happen very quickly.....

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Originally Posted by Chris R

as for the speed thing, when was the last time NASCAR had "a new track record" at an "old" track??

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Sprint Cup broke its track record at Watkins Glen last August. Most of the track records for oval tracks seem to date between 2004-2006. For context, that was with soft tires and small spoilers.

Maven away!

Dallara gets a makeover.

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Modest improvements were made at Homestead through the use of lightened gearbox parts, but the biggest shift forward in weight distribution came with the addition of ballast to the front of the cars.

Although the parties involved with the Homestead test reported those changes went at least halfway to cure the DW12’s sizeable oversteer on corner entry and understeer on corner exit, Dallara has agreed to produce all-new suspension for the car to further mitigate its balance problems.

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AUTO RACING - INDYCAR: Dallara Commits To DW12 Updates

Had we heard the new car ran an unofficial 243 at fontana is there anyone that wouldn't be feeling a bit more optomistic about 2012 right about now?

Instead we have uncertainty about the new car.... No schedule....and current scuttlebutt is izod can void the title sponsorship contract if we don't get to 16 races...... Can you say track rentals