Hamilton: Maybe it's because I'm black

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Originally Posted by The Black Knight

It's like Senna said, "Because he is out front"

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"If I see a gap - I go for it. The moment you don't go for that gap, you are no longer a racing driver". That sort of thing you mean?

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

"If I see a gap - I go for it. The moment you don't go for that gap, you are no longer a racing driver". That sort of thing you mean?

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Exactly!

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

All this hoo ha over Hamilton, and not a mention about Sutil/Kobyashi at the corner before the hairpin.

Can't put my finger on why that is.........

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Because Kobayashi didn't blame Sutil for it and say "It's because I've got slanty eyes isn't it!!!!!"

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Originally Posted by The Black Knight

So I put to those anti-Hamilton folks, show us evidence that conveys how Hamilton was wrong in the Maldonado incident. It's the same for the Massa incident really but clearly Lewis was a bit too opportunistic there but Massa did turn in on him taking an incorrect line into Loews.

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I don't get why people are defending the move on Massa. I'm an out and out LH fan, I cut him more slack than a lot of people, but that move on Massa was only going to end with contact. The Maldonado one is what I've got an issue with, because it was basically the same move Lewis had pulled on Schumi earlier in the race.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Because Kobayashi didn't blame Sutil for it?

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It was far more black & white (pun intended) than any of Lewis' **** ups though. Koba just punted Sutil round.

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

"If I see a gap - I go for it. The moment you don't go for that gap, you are no longer a racing driver". That sort of thing you mean?

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I don't seem to remember the part of the sporting regulations that says "If Senna says it then it's part of the sporting regs" :confused:

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Originally Posted by Daniel

I don't seem to remember the part of the sporting regulations that says "If Senna says it then it's part of the sporting regs" :confused:

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We all know that the sporting regs and their application is all subjective anyway, that's exactly why the penalties and decisions lack any degree of consistency. It's the same in most sports though.

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Originally Posted by barryfullalove

but that move on Massa was only going to end with contact.

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Not necessarily it wasn't. Rosberg could have (but crucially, did not) turned in on the Shoe, and the Shoe could have (but......) did not turn in on Lewis. Massa chose to turn in, Lewis did not invite him to do so. You need to look at the Shoe's move on Nico, from as far back as Lewis, and then listen to the commentary. Then contracst that to the Massa/Lewis move, and listen to the commentary. I think it is about this point that MB points out that an overtake requires a willing opponent.

Kudos to Lewis for trying. There are quite a few elsewhere on this 'ere forum slagging JB for not trying to pass Alonso...

Damned if you do, buggered senseless to clowns pocket proportions if you don't!

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Originally Posted by barryfullalove

It was far more black & white (pun intended) than any of Lewis' **** ups though. Koba just punted Sutil round.

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Fair point.

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Originally Posted by barryfullalove

I don't get why people are defending the move on Massa. I'm an out and out LH fan, I cut him more slack than a lot of people, but that move on Massa was only going to end with contact. The Maldonado one is what I've got an issue with, because it was basically the same move Lewis had pulled on Schumi earlier in the race.

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True enough, but Schumacher didn't NEED to let Hamilton through, Hamilton never would have made the apex if Schumacher had chosen the racing line. Schumacher got criticised for what happened with petrov in Turkey so he chose to let the position go and keep on going. Imagine if Schumacher had done the same as Maldonado, imagine the stink over that.......

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Not necessarily it wasn't. Rosberg could have (but crucially, did not) turned in on the Shoe, and the Shoe could have (but......) did not turn in on Lewis. Massa chose to turn in, Lewis did not invite him to do so. You need to look at the Shoe's move on Nico, from as far back as Lewis, and then listen to the commentary. Then contracst that to the Massa/Lewis move, and listen to the commentary. I think it is about this point that MB points out that an overtake requires a willing opponent.

Kudos to Lewis for trying. There are quite a few elsewhere on this 'ere forum slagging JB for not trying to pass Alonso...

Damned if you do, buggered senseless to clowns pocket proportions if you don't!

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Oh come on, Schumacher was alongside Rosberg and wasn't just sticking his nose in.