Student Riots

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Originally Posted by Bolton Midnight

But thanks to His Toniness being a bit dim is no longer a reason for not going to Uni as he decided that all and sundry should attend as it took them off the unemployment figures so made it look like Nu Labour were doing well.

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Ironic that you post that on the day it was announced that unemployment (under the coalition) has risen by 35,000 to its highest level in six months, with youth unemployment in particular at near-record levels

Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...s-unexpectedly
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/j...5-million.html

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Originally Posted by skc

...We either have a system where the people getting a financial benefit through the University system help pay for the continued excellence they experienced or we dilute that system by letting it continue as it is doing.

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Skc, you seem to imply that the primary purpose of a university education is to earn a higher income, which is a seriously misinformed assumption. I don’t know of any of my graduate friends who attended university for this purpose. Most enrol to better themselves academically and to pursue a chosen profession. A higher income may be a by-product of a university degree.
Around here, I know that there are occupations such as tradesmen that are currently earning a higher annual gross salary than me :s

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Originally Posted by schmenke

Skc, you seem to imply that the primary purpose of a university education is to earn a higher income, which is a seriously misinformed assumption. I don’t know of any of my graduate friends who attended university for this purpose. Most enrol to better themselves academically and to pursue a chosen profession. A higher income may be a by-product of a university degree.

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It is indeed a great shame that those with an exaggerated respect for money view university in such coldly financial terms.

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Originally Posted by Dave B

Ironic that you post that on the day it was announced that unemployment (under the coalition) has risen by 35,000 to its highest level in six months, with youth unemployment in particular at near-record levels[/URL]

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However, I was particularly pleased to see that the private sector stepped up to the plate as promised, and provided the jobs that the economy, and those made redundant, so badly need.

Oh no, wait. That didn't happen. Politicians breaking a promise. Whatever next.

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

However, I was particularly pleased to see that the private sector stepped up to the plate as promised, and provided the jobs that the economy, and those made redundant, so badly need.

Oh no, wait. That didn't happen. Politicians breaking a promise. Whatever next.

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Add to this that the uncertainty many people have about their future seems to be depressing spending and halting still further the economic recovery.

We're all in this together... :\

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Originally Posted by schmenke

Skc, you seem to imply that the primary purpose of a university education is to earn a higher income, which is a seriously misinformed assumption. I don’t know of any of my graduate friends who attended university for this purpose. Most enroll to better themselves academically and to pursue a chosen profession. A higher income may be a by-product of a university degree.
Around here, I know that there are occupations such as tradesmen that are currently earning a higher annual gross salary than me :s

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Schmenke. You have made your mind up, regardless of what I have written, so it is perhaps understandable that you would write such nonsense.

I have not implied that people go to University to earn a high wage but I have stated that those benefiting from a degree education which results in a high wage should contribute a small amount of this privilege back into the system.

If you bother reading my posts, you will see that I agree people not earning a high wage should be exempt and those earning more should pay a proportion back with the rest being written off.

And to Mr BDunnell. I have a healthy respect for money and am not ashamed of it. Perhaps if people respect money more and appreciate we don't live in a society where we can have whatever we want without paying for it, then the country wouldn't be in the bloody mess it is.

Everyone bleats on about how the Government should do this and do that. It's just avarice and greed but after the self serving spending spree of the last Government, it has to stop. In their words, "There's nothing left".

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Originally Posted by Dave B

Ironic that you post that on the day it was announced that unemployment (under the coalition) has risen by 35,000 to its highest level in six months, with youth unemployment in particular at near-record levels

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and it'll get worse once the cuts really bite, the more public sector non jobs go the better - sack the lot of them

maybe the way they record it is more honest, could hardly be less honest than the way Liebour massaged the figures.

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Originally Posted by skc

I have not implied that people go to University to earn a high wage but I have stated that those benefiting from a degree education which results in a high wage should contribute a small amount of this privilege back into the system.

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Leaving universities aside, do you believe in increased taxation for the rich? If not, why is a tax on intelligence acceptable?

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Originally Posted by skc

And to Mr BDunnell. I have a healthy respect for money and am not ashamed of it. Perhaps if people respect money more and appreciate we don't live in a society where we can have whatever we want without paying for it, then the country wouldn't be in the bloody mess it is.

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That is rather different to what I'm getting at. I agree with what you say there. What I am decidedly unenthusiastic about is the attitude that money is everything.

This pales in comparison to the riot that broke out in cyber-space on motorsports.com headquartered in the UK when a mentally deranged asylum resident went missing for a brief period today :s ailor: :s mokin:

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Originally Posted by Bolton Midnight

and it'll get worse once the cuts really bite, the more public sector non jobs go the better - sack the lot of them

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And replace them with....?

Personally I'd still like my bins emptied, my local hospital to be efficient and well-managed, to be safe from crime, for kids to be educated and protected, the roads maintained.... I could go on.

Who's going to do all this and more once you "sack the lot of them"? The private sector - for a profit?

How do you fund the massive amount of unemployment claims which would result? How do you replace the lost tax income? How do you make up the lost VAT income from these people now facing no disposable income?

Think it through, it's becoming impossible to have reasonable debate with you if you spew out this ill-conceived gibberish.

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maybe the way they record it is more honest, could hardly be less honest than the way Liebour massaged the figures.

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Nice try, but the methodolgy hasn't changed; and in any case the figures are compiled by the Office of National Statistics, not the government. But, as ever, don't let facts get in your way.