Hamilton Stripped of Win - Official

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Originally Posted by Daniel

...he didn't give the position back cleanly and made a net gain out of it all. No driver should gain out of going off the track

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What's your definition of "give the position back cleanly"?

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Originally Posted by Tonieke

haha ok Daniel..let me see...Lewis clearly hoped Kimi would leave him space..But he didn't..so instead of hitting the breaks hard..eventualy causing a dangerous situation..he choose for the safest option..cutting the corner..letting Kimi pass again after that..Nothing to complain about here either or ?

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Braking at a mere 100 kph in a F1 car isn't dangerous.

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Originally Posted by wedge

IMHO you're comparing apples and oranges.

Based on onboard footage (shame the CCTV evidence wasn't made public?) Magny Cours Lewis took too much speed into the Nurburgring chicane whereas at Spa he was fighting for position in which Kimi gave nothing away, in the same way Lewis 'pushed' Piquet and Massa off the track at Hockenheim.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joX_A...eature=related

The problem with being pushed wide at a chicane is that you have little choice but to cut the second part of the corner.

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Of course I'm not saying Lewis shouldn't have cut the chicane. It was the only sensible option. It's Lewis' driving after the cut that is being debated here.

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

What's your definition of "give the position back cleanly"?

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Definitely not this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5UnPeyzcHM

Incidentally, no penalty was handed out.

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Originally Posted by wedge

I remember Jason Plato did exactly the same thing a few years ago at Copse/Silverstone throughout the qualifying session and got away with it that time. I think BTCC have clamped down on it now.

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Didn't it used to be the case that going over a white line just outside the outside kerbing at Paddock Hill Bend too many times at Brands Hatch was deemed worthy of a penalty?

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Originally Posted by ioan

Braking at a mere 100 kph in a F1 car isn't dangerous.

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it was geting wet and they where still on slicks..so to me it would have been a dangerous move...but again...each his own opinion !

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Originally Posted by theugsquirrel

Definitely not this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5UnPeyzcHM

Incidentally, no penalty was handed out.

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And if I remember rightly, he did it 2 or 3 times.

For the people that think the FIA are fair to McLaren, can you tell me why Ferrari was not penalised for this and yet Lewis, who only crossed the chicane to avoid Kimi, backed off, gave about a clear cars length advantage to Kimi and then done him on braking, should be penalised.

If it were the other way around, how would you react?

Shifter has it right .
He said basically the same as I , way back in the early pages of this thread , but did a much better (or , at least longer winded) job of explaining it .

He should have left his passing for the hillside .

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Originally Posted by theugsquirrel

Definitely not this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5UnPeyzcHM

Incidentally, no penalty was handed out.

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Forogt about this. There shouldn't have been a penalty, even though I can see why people are arguing for it.

its all VERY simple.

LH got a good exit out of cutting the chicane so yes, let Kimi go. But had the perfect run to overtake again. If he followed him on circuit Kimi would have got the power down before LH and got away a bit. Basically LH cheated.

And the fact he said 'thats what im talking about' after the 'win' means he should be disqualified from monza!