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Originally Posted by Fly_Half
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Compared to who?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fly_Half
Go to WRC.com and look at stage times in Finland 2011.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fly_Half
Then compare MW with Tanak.
You will maybe not change your mind, but you would maybe understand why at least I think he is a hell of a driver.
You would also note what kind of car he drives.
The problem seemed he was caught between consistency and speed demands - in S2000 no one was quicker and he even outpaced WRC cars. I still want to know what was communicated to him as the expectation that he failed to deliver on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach 2
Finish more Rallies I guess. But I think in general that it is too much to ask for his first WRC season outing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
I would say that this proves how difficult it is to establish even a seemingly talented driver among the 4-5 best. Most often the problem is between the steering wheel and the seat, but often think he who is there, the problem is the car, or something with the car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
i compared tanak to neuville whole season, and tanak is beaten, badly. i dont think it is all his fault. i think it is partly m-sport, partly mind his mind setter; martin. he is quick tho, very quick. he deserves more wrc seasons. but still not too late to become a ERC champion.
He should have been more consistant. He said that the first half of the season was a lot to take with the expectations and rally after rally, he was not really and got overwhelmed too easily, which led to stupid mistakes. The second half of the season was an improvement for Tänak, but it was too little too late. For many drivers having no testing before events is quite a disadvantage when compared to those that do get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Overall he blew his chance, very hard to get back now.
Well, say what you say but leave Märtin out of it because he's the whole reason Tänak had the chance to drive in WRC. It's Tänak's personality and lack of education (not in rallying) which is the key in his case.Quote:
Originally Posted by oyunbozan
The best joke of the week :-) LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Fly_Half
5+Quote:
Originally Posted by bluuford
I'm starting to believe that Ben Sulayem will become president of the FIA shortly... ;)
http://www.fia.com/sites/default/fil.../Photo%203.jpg
MENA seek greater role in global motorsport
Can't see that as a bad thing, with his power and influence rallying might be back on top of the short list again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kielder
Well I thought I'd do the comparison with JML's 07 season with M-SportQuote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
The scoring system has changed but I converted JML's 07 season to the current system and removed Ott's power stage points.
JML - 82 points (1, 3rd place) 16 events Av 5.125 per event
Ott - 48 points (1, 3rd place) 13 events Av 3.69 per event
So Ott was a fair way behind the JML level of consistency (and that's comparing someone with a similar reputation!) although he did equal the podium placing.
Anybody know what Hayden Paddon's plans are (more specific than "get enough sponsorship to drive again", I mean)? This guy is in my mind a future front runner, I'd hate to see money problems prevent him getting there.
But the difference in starts in WRCar before those season?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
Latvala had 32 starts with a WRC car before the 2007 season. Tänak had 2 WRC car starts before 2012.
Now work out how many of those starts weren't in ancient machinery.Quote:
Originally Posted by wrc45
I make it 11
Ott had 2 structured seasons in development leading up to the WRC ride so wasn't exactly unfamiliar with the stages in most cases
Id plac Neuville above Tanak aswel. But let's not forget, neuville isn't exactly crash free either!Quote:
Originally Posted by oyunbozan
Paddon has a get-together scheduled for the 24th Feb in NZ where he will likely present his plans for this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by kirungi okwogera
He is putting his Evo IX back together in a R4 spec - likely for NZ rallly use.
4 - likely choices -a) WRC2 doing selected rounds mainly in Europe with Skoda or other brand.
b) Group N cup with a Group N car.
c) Selected rounds in leased WRC.
d) Staying home.
Rallying is also politics and the driver fitting the car/ sponsor brand image etc
Khalid al'Qassimi doesn't know how to use Twitter:
https://twitter.com/khalidbinfaisal
Though to be fair, neither do I.
The last rumor (I cannot state that clearly enough) is that he is in talks with Hyundai for 2014. This year he may do WRC2 again or some rounds in a WRC. I think he will do rally Australia for sure in either a WRC or s2000 car.Quote:
Originally Posted by kirungi okwogera
Talks with Hyundai? I highly doubt it, maybe with Hyundai NZ but that is still highly unlikely,and certainly doesn't have anything to do with the WRC program. I think he will do selected rounds in a WRC car, with a most likely appearance in Rally Australia with a WRC car. But we will wait and see when he announces his plansQuote:
Originally Posted by Plan9
in my opinion, tanak must drive fiesta R5 at WRC2, not Wilson.
Wilson will not drive it in WRC2, no money...Quote:
Originally Posted by muratgunarslan
So, will Wilson do anythhing this season?Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
Rally Sweden :)Quote:
Originally Posted by tolis
I hope Paddon can continue in the WRC, his professionalism in Spain impressed me. He has great potential, shame about the end to his season last year.
Wilson steps in for ill Al-Attiyah for WRC Rally Sweden this weekend « HANDBRAKES & HAIRPINSQuote:
Originally Posted by tolis
So you don't believe the M-sport press release that MW will do the second half of the season in R5?Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
Can you show me that press release from M-Sport?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
My mistake it was his interview at Autosport ExhibitionQuote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
Matthew Wilson to contest WRC2 with a new R5-spec Ford Fiesta - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com
But can't think he would have made the statement without dad's approval as they don't need to create hostages to fortune.
regarding Paddon: can´t find the link, but Raimund Baumschlager said in an interview before Jänner rallye that Haydon want to do again WRC2 in an BRR Skoda, but was still looking for sponsors... Baumschlager is also very unhappy with the national Lavanttal rallye date, because it´s on same weekend with portugal, and his Skodas are already rented for portugal.
I know Baumschlager rate Paddon very high, so I think the chances for Haydon in an BRR-Skoda under Red Bull banners are quite high.
For which crew?Quote:
Originally Posted by Adler
I think it wasn´t announced yet, but I believe/hope there will be one for Paddon.Quote:
Originally Posted by tolis
Has anyone heard anythin more on what prodrive is going to do?
On Paddon-Hyundai: I only said it was a rumor. I did not say it was going to happen (although I hope it does). There are similar rumors about Atko and Hyundai as well. It's anyone's guess how substantial any of it is.
Well, for all the people talking about Paddon and Tanak, just remember to look at Mikko Hirvonen's early career path - a dismal year with Ford, getting cut from the team, a pretty cruddy year with Subaru after that, cut again, a privateer year in which he got one podium and resigned with Ford... it's a slow process to the top level for some!
Not to imply that I think Tanak is quite WRC level at the moment. He's not bad but I did feel his SWRC championship was a a result of several wins in which multiple fast drivers retired and he didn't.
I do kind of think Paddon probably is WRC level, though. He is young but one of the most calm and professional drivers of any age I've seen - and I've mentioned somewhere before, he wins 60+ percent of any stages he runs... that's unheard of outside the L-word. If he's not getting some privateer WRC/WRC-2 rounds he should be getting some phone calls from ERC teams...
Fixed that for you ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by kirungi okwogera
Sincerely, I'd prefer he tells it Kubica: Kankkunen tells Kovalainen: try rally
Now now, the sport's big enough for both Kubica and Kovalainen. I am interested in Kubica more though as somebody was saying he's one of the top RBR players in Poland!?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kielder
If I remember right he was really playing RBR but many other drivers do as well ;)