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The 5.1 surround on Sky is phenomenal, and almost worth paying for on its own. The BBC, having pioneered NICAM stereo and done so much to drive technical quality, have fallen behind other broadcasters: they don't even bother with 5.1 for flagship music shows such as The Voice.Quote:
Originally Posted by acescribe
You'll need a home cinema system to benefit from SKY Sports F1 HD's 5.1 audio. I find all the HD channels have far superior to their non HD stream (bbc/itv/ch4 etc)Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
BBC highlights were excellent, especially as they were only about two hours after the race. Another £30.25 saved this month :)
At the end of the day, if the sponsors loose the viewers, they will vote with their feet! If they do that, I reckon the teams will deffo then form their own series, which will allow tracks that are not asked to pay through the nose, so the public get value tickets. FTA deals made with TV co's, and sponsors come back in their droves.....Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
Superb as usual, can't fault the coverage especially with the hour long forum afterwards. I really really hope they stick with it through to 2018 and aren't pressured to sell off their stake early.
I may still have an opportunity to watch it on Setanta Sports (depending on how peoples' arms are twisted in the industry) but, regardless, I wouldn't like BBC to loose their F1 slot. The coverage is spot on and has been consistently since they took over the coverage from ITV. This has been the best F1 TV package in my twelve years of watching the sport live on ITV, RTE and BBC. It would be a shame for greed to step in and pull the plug on coverage quality I thought we'd never get.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
Awww does anyone know where James Allen has gone? Has he been dropped or something?
I have wondered this on the practice session on Radio.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjbetty
I would also like to know where he has gone.
Strange, I thought I heard Legard's voice on the practice session Saturday morning. Allen seems to have gone along to the race anyway. I can only speculate that maybe he's lost his voice or something?
So this was the first race that I watched both coverage of. I have to agree, the BBC has by far the better package. The pre and post race shows are much better.
The one very sore weakness in the Beeb's lineup, in my opinion, it this Garry who does their pit wall reporting. He didn't contribute a single thing that the main commentators hadn't already mentioned, he mumbles his words and is very hard to understand when there is no background noise, and he clearly doesn't know how to yell into his mic when the cars are going around him.
Annunciation is an important skill for a TV presenter/reporter. I have no idea whose idea it was to hire him, but he should be dropped IMMEDIATELY.
Allen has said in his website that he will be back for Silverstone.
If you have a good ear and especially if you're a local, Gary Anderson kinda has a muddled accent! Northern Irish-Northamptonshire accent. The way he pronounces Vettel is prominent. Its exactly how we would say 'kettle' for instance. We're lazy prouncing 't's' and more emphasis on the phonetic sound that proceeds it.
Gary works best pre and post race. Quite frankly you don't need fancy presentation. A pen and paper is perfectly suffice, after all they say ideas come from scrap paper and empty fag packets.
Where has Damon Hill disappeared to off Sky's coverage?
I don't believe he has been around since the Spanish Grand Prix.
Anybody an idea??!
There must be a consipracy to abduct British F1 Broadcasters! Find James Allen and we find Damon Hill!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bezza
That would be a shame.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
How many will give up watching if the BBC lose its rights? How can bernie think its a good move to have fewer followers??
Doesn't matter how many times he gets it right if I don't understand a bloody thing that comes out of his mouth. For all I know, he can be the personification of Stirling Moss and Rory Byrne in one body but that is of no use to me if I don't understand a word of what he says! And I don't think it's just the Irish accent. I work with an Irishwoman everyday, I grew up watching documentaries and movies about the conflict so I was exposed to the Irish accent from both sides from a very young age. But Garry's speech is something else... I think African-American rappers in New Orleans pronounce more of the letters in their words than him!Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
For the record, my girlfriend (an Aussie) watched the BBC coverage with me, and she couldn't make any sense of what he was talking about. I really doubt anyone outside UK would be able to understand many of his sentences.
Which makes me wonder, do any overseas broadcasters still carry the BBC feed? Or have they all switched to Sky? I know that in Australia, Network Ten has switched to Sky but I think the BBC commentary (and prior to that, the ITV commentary) was carried in many other countries as well.
Gary is good for post race analysis and the forum, but he's no good as a pit lane reporter.
Firstly, as an Irishman, I will say that Gary's accent is particularly difficult to understand at times if you can't catch all of the nuances of the dialect. However, I think most people can catch what he is saying. It's not like a foreign person speaking in broken English.Quote:
Originally Posted by aryan
Secondly, for what it's worth, Setanta Sports use the BBC feed for their showing of the races. But they only use the race commentary i.e. the programme doesn't include the BBC's pre-race show and, during qualifying sessions, the break between Q1, Q2 and Q3 does not include the analysis from the BBC presenters. We just get on-track and pitlane shots with ambient noise.
I disagree. I think he's suited to the pitlane. The biggest problem I have is his location. I wish the directors could come to some kind of compromise with regard to where they station Gary. It seems that every time Ben and David ask him for analysis or updates during the race, a stream of cars come racing down the straight and he gets drowned out. Yet, when there are no cars passing, he's crystal clear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
But Sky don't have Adrian Chiles scaring viewers away!
Yes but the Beeb dont have Bernie's wonga... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
Bob Diamond aside, who does?Quote:
Originally Posted by aki13
Note that the buildup for Silverstone is on BBC1 / BBC1 HD but the race and post race is on BBC2 / BBC HD
Heh. But it's important if setting it to record. Just recording the buildup and missing the race would be rather rage inducing!
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Originally Posted by Mark
The best sport in the World is being moved to BBC 2 for what? For some grumpy Scot that is going to whack a little ball over a net. Grrr.....
The fact it's on BBC2 doesn't matter. It's a channel number. The separation of buildup and race is just odd.
Ah, but remember, the Beeb signed a new contract with Wimbledon last year, and later gave up their exclusive F1 rights. We know we're their priorities are? At least it's on BBC2, last weeks MotoGP was shifted to the Red button......with tennis both on BBC1/2.Quote:
Originally Posted by aki13
It's weird that in this multichannel age channel numbers still matter to a lot of people, but the simple fact is that programmes get better ratings on BBC1 than if they were on BBC2.The Murray match is the final of a tournament, so I guess it's only natural that it takes precedence over "just" another round of a championship, even if it is the home race. I'll be watching both, anyway! :p
I was watching the Beeb's coverage until the Force India factory tour, EJ made me turn over and I found myself enjoying a great discussion between Hill and Herbert.
Mind you, Sky then ran a puff-piece for Santander so I changed back! Swings and roundabouts.
Both screens on now for qualifying, and wow it's a busy pitlane!
Fantastic. I thought he was controlling himself to well last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
More likely to get a complaint from some busybody if you're on the Beeb - at least nobody would be watching on Sky!Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
Meanwhile Sky can't get an umbrella to work and are attacking Niki Lauda
Golden moment earlier, Allan McNish was describing wet weather driving to Georgie and told her "you try it when you're driving home on the M1 tonight". Bless him, he doesn't know... HIC :beer:Quote:
Originally Posted by aki13
Exceptional circumstances, of course, but today's downpour shows the value of Sky having a whole channel for F1. They stuck around for plenty of analysis and interviews unlike the Beeb who had to rush away, partly due to some girls having a knockabout to make sure Centre Court is ready for the proper match tomorrow :p
When you say proper match..... :p :Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave B
To be fair, the BBC stuck with it until the end. And they can pad better than anyone else, I imagine they're basically told to wander around and see what's going on which always makes for watchable telly!
Well done BBC for continuing to broadcast during the red flag period in Q2 despite not having a dedicated F1 channel.
A good job of "keeping the show on the road" in trying circumstances.
I think they should let EJ do the gridwalk. DC is a lame duck all by himself.
Nice moment when DC and Martin Brundle bumped into each other.
They should have interviewed each other