FIA sends spy case to Court of Appeal

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Originally Posted by Hendersen

I said I never saw one like alonso turning the pitlane into a drag race. Must forgive me for not watching every practice run, qualifying lap, and race. Sometimes we don't even get GPs in the united states, and sometimes they are several hours delayed( and unless something controversial happened, why watch). Stay on topic and quit trolling like your pal.

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hey, ignorance is no crime fella but dont try and use it as an excuse :p :

some of us like F1 for the sport, not the controvercy but smashes and crashes are appealing I suppose to a particular type of fan.

fortunatly, I know your not typical of the majority of American F1 fans who are very knowledgeable (if sometimes misguided about JV Fousto :laugh: ) so dont let your inferiority syndrome worry you ;)

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Originally Posted by Hendersen

It was not my suggestion they do such...

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Ok, I can read it that way.

Whether McLaren mentioned the source of the information or not does not alter the fact that there was a question over the legality of the floor which was a perfectly legitimate one to raise, regardless of the subsequent outcome.

The anger of Ferrari fans does seem rather misdirected. It's the information that did the (perceived) damage to their team, not the way it got to the FIA.

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

Ok, I can read it that way.

Whether McLaren mentioned the source of the information or not does not alter the fact that there was a question over the legality of the floor which was a perfectly legitimate one to raise, regardless of the subsequent outcome..

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Nope. But would the questions have been raised had they not been given it? That's the question, because if not, then it could be argued in a court of law that the actions of Mclaren were 1. based on illegal information, and 2. compromised the standings of a competitior(ferrari). They may even have a case in a international court law on a civil level that could financially ruin Mclaren if Ferrari doesn't win the WDC. I'm sure they can project damages in car sales in losing versus winning years.

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

The anger of Ferrari fans does seem rather misdirected. It's the information that did the (perceived) damage to their team, not the way it got to the FIA.

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Huh? More like the Mclaren fans seem rather misdirected in general at whats going on on the planet Earth.

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Originally Posted by Hendersen

would the questions have been raised had they not been given it?

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Given Stepney's view - "You only needed to take a look at the car to realize what was wrong, it was obvious for people who work in F1. At McLaren they knew without the need for whistle blowing" - the answer to that is yes, questions would have been raised regardless.

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

Given Stepney's view - "You only needed to take a look at the car to realize what was wrong, it was obvious for people who work in F1. At McLaren they knew without the need for whistle blowing" - the answer to that is yes, questions would have been raised regardless.

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Ya, I'm sure he'd going to have an entirely imprtial expert opinion on the matters.

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

Given Stepney's view - "You only needed to take a look at the car to realize what was wrong, it was obvious for people who work in F1. At McLaren they knew without the need for whistle blowing" - the answer to that is yes, questions would have been raised regardless.

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Than why the need to send them the info?!

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Originally Posted by ioan

Than why the need to send them the info?!

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ask the Ferrari employee. he's the one that committed the offence

It's not surprising that Stepney's opinion should be dismissed out of hand, but as early as the 2006 Brazilian GP the issue of flexible aerodynamics and the spring mounting on the Ferrari 248 F1's front splitter was being raised, and illustrated, by Craig Scarborough, a journalist writing in Autosport's online journal.

For those who know what to look at, and where to look, it's not too hard to see what other teams are up to. It's known that teams hire photographers to take photos of developments up and down the pitlane for goodness sake, and that kind of thing is nothing new. Buy the current issue of MotorSport magazine and you'll be able to read all about "some of the past’s murkier dealings".

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Originally Posted by Hendersen

Huh? you are a mod here? You ARE trolling. What the hell, dude? It's perfectly obvious they acted in a way to protect themselves from being suspect of having information they should not have had, that they in fact illegally had on top of trying to hold on to the secrecy of their spy whom provided it..

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Mclaren was imply trying to have their cake and eat it too, and they got caught in the act, just as they have on several occaisions this year...problem is that we have a "moderator" who can not accept it, so..........so much for being even handed in this matter or accepting that which can not be denied as someone might expect from a moderator rather than the whims and emotions of favoritism

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Originally Posted by markabilly

Mclaren was imply trying to have their cake and eat it too, and they got caught in the act, just as they have on several occaisions this year...problem is that we have a "moderator" who can not accept it, so..........so much for being even handed in this matter or accepting that which can not be denied as someone might expect from a moderator rather than the whims and emotions of favoritism

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quit whining and come up with something constructive then. :rolleyes: what you gonna do, stamp your foot until people agree with you? :laugh: