Oliver Solberg

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Originally Posted by dimviii

to dont crash at first stage and first corner.
Really you ask ''what to learn''?
He gives you the impression of a ''learned driver''?

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Originally Posted by cali

I just can't believe some of the forumers here, thinking that you have to give the best car for any youngster for learning :D
Guys are living in somekind of dreamland :D

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You get the same news I do, so I dare you to ring Malcolm and ask these same questions then.

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Originally Posted by WRCStan

You get the same news I do, so I dare you to ring Malcolm and ask these same questions then.

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Malcolm will not deny some 3-4 millions for a year.

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Originally Posted by WRCStan

You get the same news I do, so I dare you to ring Malcolm and ask these same questions then.

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Malcolm would be happy to receive some donations, like Dimvii said around 3-4 millions per season or so. He's businessman after all. He has no problems of giving cars to the likes of Jocius or Serderidis.

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Originally Posted by SubaruNorway

Why not, probably a lot harder competition on a Norwegian event than the Cambrian, remember how Greensmith got a beating in Numedalsrally.

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I'm not surprised about Greensmith not winning a national rally :)

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Originally Posted by WRCStan

I ask what does learn the events mean. Is it how to drive on various surfaces? He's been driving a decade+, owns his own land and a stocked garage, been flying round the world motorsporting since he was in his Daddy's ballbag and doesn't appear to do much else. He's not exactly the freshest of newcomers, so assuming his goal is to get to the top of the sport, it's the Rally1 he needs to learn from here, and I assume he should be learning from the mistakes he is making - this is the learning environment you'd take away. Wasn't the Finland smash related to hybrid? How do you learn not to do that in Rally2?

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The events are not just gravel, tarmac and snow. There are certain characteristics and styles of driving and you get that by experience. For example Oliver's first technical/rough gravel rally was Sardinia 2020 exactly two years ago (well Mexico too, but it ended on the first stage). And in 2021 he only did Portugal and Greece, latter with only half of the kilometres. Meanwhile, for example Kalle did a bunch of this sort of rallies in the Italian series in 2017, even before entering WRC2.

Also what cali said is true, he needs to learn how to perform throughout a rally with no mistakes. And like I've said, learn how to keep a lead, how to win an event. It's a psychological thing.

You can learn all this with Rally1 machinery as well but it's a very expensive way to do it. Also it's more difficult to win the overall in a WRC event than to win the WRC2 class, but even the latter is not that easy.

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Originally Posted by steve.mandzij

Not the main point but the Finland smash was a huge driving mistake, simple as: upshifting into a corner everyone took more slow (and he crashed in Finland in the i20 Rally2 as well, so there's a common denominator and it's not hybrid)

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Yes. Finland was a major setback. But not enogh for you negatives to place him in a WRC2 car and compete with amateurs. He is not an amateur at this point. He is ready for continuing in RC1 cars if circumstances allows him to do.

If it is a possibility with a deal with Malcolm & Co, it would imo make sense with a three stage deal.
Year 1: WRC2 campaign, including development work on the Rally2, and as much testing as allowed with the Puma.
Year 2: 3rd car Rally1.
Year 3: 2nd car Rally1 fighting for podiums, and fighting for best scorer in the team.

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Originally Posted by Rallyper

Yes. Finland was a major setback. But not enogh for you negatives to place him in a WRC2 car and compete with amateurs. He is not an amateur at this point. He is ready for continuing in RC1 cars if circumstances allows him to do.

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Amateurs? he should beat those AMATEURS then first when he wants to do good in upper class. he didnt do it on Rally Portugal this year, far from it

i dont get it Per why you are so against him going a step back. Tänak is a perfect example how it worked and his debut season in big class was much better than Olivers this season and its clear to see he isnt ready yet.

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Originally Posted by Rallyper

Yes. Finland was a major setback. But not enogh for you negatives to place him in a WRC2 car and compete with amateurs. He is not an amateur at this point. He is ready for continuing in RC1 cars if circumstances allows him to do.

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Fun fact:

Solberg has entered 13 WRC2/3 rallies.
He won once (Estonia 2020, though Østberg wasn't loosing points to him so had no big motivation to fight him) and was on podium once more (Monza 2020, second).

Since that rally in Estonia 2020 he has led the Rally2 category on a rally once (Greece 2021 for two stages).

Doesn't look like he is a match for the amateurs...

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Originally Posted by Sulland

Year 1: WRC2 campaign, including development work on the Rally2, and as much testing as allowed with the Puma.

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Nice idea but testing is limited to one day per rally per driver taking part in said rally. Unless you test only on the team test area.