Same Sex Marriage

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

I see where you are coming from, and understand the principal.

However, the Bible advocates stoning etc, and I don't really think we should continue doing that. Adjust punishments accordingly.

Does this mean we should change other principals? Personally I don't, and I'm not going to labour my point because I've said my piece already. Others are free to make thier own interpretations etc.

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Just burn it and be done with it! :D ;)

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Originally Posted by gadjo_dilo

Just treated myself with a Christmas present, a book by one of my fav authors ( a romanian philosopher ). It's title is Jesus's Parables and the preface says:

"There are questions which can be answered promptly and appropriate. From those of current experience (what number you wear shoes?) To those of scientific expertise (What is gravity?). There are also questions those of early childhood, which seem simple, or surreal, but whose answer calls rather metaphysical talent or imagination: Why does hand five fingers?, Who invented sleep? There are, finally, the questions "big" questions ultimatum, which I like to call "Russian" for doing the dostoievskyan substance of many sleepless nights: What is happiness?, Why does evil exist?, What is the meaning of life?
For such questions, you can not propose a geometric response, but an analogy, a metaphor, a transfigured "detour" . It is the most appropriate solution. Only. Instead of saying, scholar "how things look", saying: "Let's just tell you a story."
In this book will be about the stories told by Jesus in his effort to familiarize others with the metabolism of His kingdom. Task which he assumes is impossible, so is the extent of his divinity:'s talking about unevident things, having to offer help, without falling into the recipe and abuse of doctrine, and has to give not only matter for reflection, but also motivation of life and existential support."


( Now I reckon our mutual friend Ioan will be again smirking at the thought of my absurd examples :laugh :) .

It makes me think that we should look behind the “stories” from the Bible, some of them reflects realities of that time, some of them reflects things that happen on spiritual-divine level that people of that time couldn’t explain.

Coming back to the power of example ( just to annoy Ioan…. ) , let’s just take the common prayer “Give us this day our daily bread” . I’m sure the sense is of a spiritual bread not the material bread as Jesus hasn’t come to feed people.

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Believe me, I have found the answers to all those questions because life is very simple as long as you do not over-complicate it yourself.
And BTW I buy my own bread, no need to pray to get it.
In the end it is just a matter of mindset.

I don't have time and patience to read the debate above.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

Their sexuality is no 'good reason', though, is it? And, if you were to turn people away on that basis, what is it other than discrimination?

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But should their behaviour give you reason it could adversely impact on other guests, then it is not discriminating to turn them away.

I'd fully expect them to use the discrimination card though......

IMO the whole marriage thing needs to change.

If I could decide, all couple (regardless of being of same or opposite sex) would first have to do a very short
civil/legal process at a courtor a city hall or something. Then every couple could have a ceremony of their like.

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Originally Posted by ioan

Yeah we were extremely rich and we even had bananas, oranges and pepsi for Christmas! Can you even imagine that?

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Nonsense! Everybody could afford those on condition to have enough time to waste on queues and enough luck to be in the right store at the right time.

The real symbols of wealth on those times were:
- the freezer ( symbolizing you have too much food to store it in a simple fridge )
- the color TV ( very expensive and hard to get )
- the videoplayer ( only sent by a relative/friend from abroad, otherwise absent in our shops )

But on the countryside where you lived....

O tempora, o mores.....



Good God....And I wanted to be good with you esp. today. LMA again and forgive me.

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

But should their behaviour give you reason it could adversely impact on other guests, then it is not discriminating to turn them away.

I'd fully expect them to use the discrimination card though......

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Turning someone away because of what you think they might do is discriminatory. Asking people to leave because of what they have done is not. I don't see how sexuality can be the basis for any sort of snap judgement on what behaviour may or may not occur?

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Originally Posted by Anubis

Turning someone away because of what you think they might do is discriminatory. Asking people to leave because of what they have done is not. I don't see how sexuality can be the basis for any sort of snap judgement on what behaviour may or may not occur?

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And who in their right mind would care about what happens in a bedroom in private?

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

And who in their right mind would care about what happens in a bedroom in private?

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Good question. Always wanted to know why so many people ( usually men :devil :) are interested in porn magazines and movies.

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Originally Posted by Anubis

Turning someone away because of what you think they might do is discriminatory. Asking people to leave because of what they have done is not. I don't see how sexuality can be the basis for any sort of snap judgement on what behaviour may or may not occur?

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"But should their behaviour" was a key element in my post I think.......