Team orders at Ferrari

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Originally Posted by wedge

I don't have a problem with it. Team orders has been in F1 for decades.

We've seen team orders applied, one way or the other since 2003.

I guess its been a mixture of Ferrari being gullible with their comms now that radios are scrutinised and Massa throwing his toys out by making out how blatant he was asked to move over cf. Kovy pretending to make a mistake and letting Hamilton through in 2008.

I think its tricky for some kind of compromise/halfway house to enforce.

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Yes Ferrari do deserve a fine for being so lame about making the call.
I guess Flav didn't have a chance to line them out in that regard during his visit :s ailor:

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Originally Posted by Dave Brockman

The transcript of the press conference is feisty reading, especially the questions from the floor!

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/85561

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excellent press conference, let them squirm.

the headlines tomorrow will damage Ferrari and as the reporter from Brazil said, Felipe will not be so seen the same in Brazil. If he had refused to yield and won the race he would have instantly been raised to hero status. But now he will get the Rubens treatment and with these times of twitter, internet, forums, facebook, cellphones, etc, it will only be much worse.

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Originally Posted by wedge

I don't have a problem with it. Team orders has been in F1 for decades.

We've seen team orders applied, one way or the other since 2003.

I guess its been a mixture of Ferrari being gullible with their comms now that radios are scrutinised and Massa throwing his toys out by making out how blatant he was asked to move over cf. Kovy pretending to make a mistake and letting Hamilton through in 2008.

I think its tricky for some kind of compromise/halfway house to enforce.

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Team members should not portray a disunited front at any time publicly, but even this could be neutralized if the core problem was elminated - revoke the rule of no team orders.

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Originally Posted by Mark

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Sorry guys, but nothing more will come of this. The $100,000 fine is a pittance by Ferrari standards and will probably be covered by a happy sponsor.
No matter how many threads you guys open, or how much you rant in numerous posts, nothing more will come out of this.

That's it. The FIA, WMSC and anyone else won't have the balls to go any further.

They will regret this and pay for it in any way.

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Originally Posted by markabilly

well, first in defense of Ferrari, at this very race when Button came out right behind Lewis, Mac said, like they were all in a panic, save your fuel....well then towards the end, they said, okay, no worries about fuel, you can go for it....yep, once again....drain them tanks a little bit so it don't look like team orders......
Now being much smarter appearently than their peers at the big red, no one is fussing at mac....... :D

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those radio messages were to Hamilton not Button, and he was ahead, so are you saying they were telling hamilton to move over and let the guy behind him in the championship by?
and by not doing so does this not make Hamilton a better character in your book to ignore that?

or is save your fuel now a coded message meaning something else than what you were going on about during the turkish GP :\

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Originally Posted by Mia 01

They will regret this and pay for it in any way.

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Nah!! nothing more will happen.

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Originally Posted by truefan72

excellent press conference, let them squirm.

the headlines tomorrow will damage Ferrari and as the reporter from Brazil said, Felipe will not be so seen the same in Brazil. If he had refused to yield and won the race he would have instantly been raised to hero status. But now he will get the Rubens treatment and with these times of twitter, internet, forums, facebook, cellphones, etc, it will only be much worse.

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Nothing can damage Ferrari. People who buy the cars understand what Ferrari has to properly do, and respect that.

If any Brazilians do act negatively towards Massa, then it will be a gross injustice. He may not be happy and he should have shown decorum, but Felipe is a team player and this is something that has to be realized.

If Felipe decision is attacked then the attackers will be disgracing themselves and do not deserve being represented so well by such a decent fellow as Massa.

Look at what he has been through over the past year. He is a brave, quick and determined racing driver that has earned his Ferrari drive.

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Originally Posted by thunderbolt

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Dont know 'bout that mate!

Looks like they finished ONE - TWO to me. It was Red Bull that became the Red Donkey today!