I don't know is it wrong in the official programme, but that's how it says there.Quote:
Originally Posted by donlorean
Sounds quite strange that it's closed same time the shakedown starts...
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I don't know is it wrong in the official programme, but that's how it says there.Quote:
Originally Posted by donlorean
Sounds quite strange that it's closed same time the shakedown starts...
Actually difference at the end of the rally had something to say in 2003-2004 Finland, when at the end of the rally the differences between places were rather small.
Notably in 2004 Loeb was 4th just 13 seconds ahead of 5th place Tuohino.
But off course, you just follow your standard procedure:
a) read post
b) find the easiest way to flame it without actually checking the facts (note that one of these flames has to include flaming an extra driver/manager/team/nation)
c) quickly post
=> 1/2 of a post is out of topic flaming. 1/2 (at best) something that adds to discussion. Seems like I'm following same scheme with this post... ohh well
the usual reply i get these days....to judge someones progress from overall difference is stupid for some simple facts
1. who was the winner
2. did the winner fight for the win for all 3 days of he was just cruising?
3. did the person who his progress we are looking at was in a fight the whole rally ? or he secured his place early and cruised through the rest of the event after 2-3 stages?
4. was car the same evolution as last year ? was the winners car evolution the same as last years winner...
5. where the stages the same? did the drivers had previous experience on these stages (both the winner and the driver we are looking at)...where the conditions the same (rain ects)
also starting potions, goals of the drivers that year, problems with the car ects....
have you thought these things through before posting that the overal difference tells for someones progress ?
and some other things....
I don't think that Ogier has a chance of winning this one, he still needs a bit more experience. Loeb will not take any risks to win as he doesn't need to, whereas Mikko not only needs to win but needs Loeb not to make it to the end. I suppose it depends if Ford can cut the speed gap to that from Bulgaria.... Mikko may have to take some risks. Maybe Latvala will be told to go for it...
maybe not win, but the podium he should reach without bigger problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by J4MIE
Possibly yes, it's one reason I like the event so much, I watched the 2008 coverage and Marcus was talking about it and I totally agree, it's not just learning the stages and the jumps but how to take combinations of corners quickly that is the key to winning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
It's hard to really grasp just how difficult this event is, I'd say far harder than any other, until you actually go out there and see the stages for yourself. Incredible. I still can't believe what sGronholm drove like, Loeb too.
The way you talk about which driver will fight to the end etz. make me wonder if not it would be Petter S whoīll win this event.
He doesnīt have to think of or about anyone, anything. Just pure PR.
And for him thatīs enough for motivate him winning the whole rally.... :s mokin:
I will probably be eating humble pie on Saturday night, but I reckon Ogier will win it. 1. Ogier, 2 Loeb, 3 Petter, I'm not bothering with official pickem or things like that but that's how I think it will end.Quote:
Originally Posted by J4MIE
Relaxed Latvala comes and wins the whole sh*t... How about that! :s mokin:
Yeah, yeah, thatīs my guess! (but after the discussion above one could even think PS will win) :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Juha_Koo