It would be great if they got him, but i have a feeling it might be Loeb or bust for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
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It would be great if they got him, but i have a feeling it might be Loeb or bust for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Yup, Mäkinen talked about it on All Live in TurkeyQuote:
Originally Posted by mknight
That is certain yes, but around that 4th car have been talks about Grönholm in Sweden etc...so took it further, because it`s silly season.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO2EUl-Gclw
Huttunen testing the Hyundai WRC. Maybe some outings next year?
doesn't look like the Abu Dhabi / Red Bull combination is such an issue at the end, look at Loeb overalls from Catalunya.
Well, there could be a big difference in being a RB athlete or a full team sponsored by both.
When is the last time when factory team have had an external non-automotive industry related main sponsor, other than RB or Abu Dhabi - Martini Movistar Ford? A bit challenging to understand how hard it is to reach main sponsors for rally teams.
What might be the salary of being RB athlete?
Toyota - Microsoft.Quote:
Originally Posted by Japé
Hyundai - Shell Mobis, Ford - Qatar
Shell and Mobis are quite automotive-related...last being HMG itself actually, not an outside sponsor.
https://www.rallit.fi/tommi-makinen-...en-mm-ralliin/
Like expected, Katsuta would likely do Sweden and Finland in a WRC Yaris. He's testing the car next week and the decision is made afterwards.
If Qassimi will be there too at least he will beat him
What about Grönholm? Was pretty interested (again) around NORF.
https://www.rallit.fi/citroenin-wrc-...i-mm-kaudeksi/
Pierre Budar says they will have Red Bull sponsorship next year, but Abu Dhabi is still under negotiations. Budar says he would like to have both.
He also says their main target for 2019 will be drivers championship, and that having Loeb in the third car won't be a money issue :D
Could do Sweden (his favourite rally), nothing elseQuote:
Originally Posted by Tarmop
can't do Sweden in a Toyota if Katsuta is in the fourth car.Quote:
Originally Posted by COD
Probably and that would be a real shame!Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
On the other hand there is a lot of cars in the TGR garage in Puuppola nowadays...
We know that extra cars don't depend on the number of available chassises, more on mechanics and other resources needed to run them.Quote:
Originally Posted by rp
"TOYOTA TEAM ESTONIA"Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Those Markko Märtin people can take care of 4th and 5th car. Current Flexi service rules helps a lot.
Huttunen first test with i20WRC this week in Spain ... ► bit.ly/2RuqlFI
Comments to earlier sponsor related discussion. Microsoft is more like tech partner for Toyota (WRC and before in F1), there is even Toyota WRC (sales)films made how the partnership benefits both parties. Qatar I just forgot, but based to quick look of few older WRC photos, it really seems that previous non-automotive related sponsors were Marlboro with Peugeot in '05, '04 (and with Mitzubishi before that) and Movistar Telefonica (linked to Sainz) with Citroën and Ford, so quite a while ago. Might there be rules nowadays in WRC (like in F1) that all cars in the team must have a same outlook?
What comes to Katsuta, I would have thought that Toyota would have been more interested about his success in Rally Japan 2020 which would have meant 2019 calendar for him more like a Monte, Tour de Corse, Germany and Catalonia.
RedBull, DMG Mori, Monster, Certina, Abu Dhabi, Jipocar, Stobart, DC, Tools, EuroLoto, Mentos etc. are certainly not automotive branches and they were or still are active in WRC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Japé
No (probably), Evans was an official M-Sport driver last year in a DMack coloured car.
Mirek, it was about title/main sponsors, none of them are that for a works team. Some are sponsors/owned by privateers etc.
I heard Loeb was and has been getting a salary through PSA even when he is not participating in any form of Motorsport. With that being said he would have to get paid a good amount of money to leave and do a drive for MSport.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
So maybe 2 cars will have Red Bull colors, and the 3rd Abu Dhabi? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Abu Dhabi was title sponsor of Citroën, RedBull Škoda in 2006 and a main sponsor of VW 2013-2016, Stobart was an owner of a semi-works team, DMG Mori is the second biggest sponsor of Toyota, not a title sponsor but a big one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarmop
I also forgot Gauloisses as a main sponsor of Kronos/Citroën in 2006.
I still stand in my silly season prediction that AD goes over to M-Sport ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by TWRC
Not to be an a-hole, but when Loeb hasn't been involved in any form of motorsport?Quote:
Originally Posted by racerx1979
rarely ..lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Allez Andruet
Whatever the way, I hope Abu Dhabi will manage to continue; it’d be strange to see them leaving when, for the first time, they have a serious chance to get a title with Citroen.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWRC
Citroen have Total and Abu Dhabi and now want RedBull aswell. And Still they discuss about 3rd car... They behave like they are not works team. M-Sport could use those kind of sponsorships to stay in the game.
What about Subaru? What did 555 mean in that days?
555 is a tobacco brand but that's really long time a go when it was involved in rally.Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
Btw, does anyone know why the '555' logo was allowed during 1993-1995 in countries where tobacco advertising was otherwise banned? Sure the car model was called "Impreza 555" but still - what kind of ruling and by whom was that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
It's better for the sport if Msport get the Abu Dhabi money. Citroen are locked in for the next two/three years regardless, and now have the red bull backing that Msport relied upon in the last two years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
Ostberg would bring money and he could maybe share a car with Loeb if they're scrounging for extra money that badly.
That's a team that could win the manufacturers title; Ogier, Lappi, Loeb/Ostberg - but maybe Loeb and Ostberg both want to do more than 6/7events so that arrangement might not work.
Subaru did that to get around the ban on tobacco advertising. By making it part of the model name it wasn't technically advertising even thought it really was. If Mitsubishi had renamed the Lancer to be a Lancer Marlboro it would have been the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allez Andruet
Probably some politically correct thing what Ferrari and Marlboro did in F1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allez Andruet
One explanation I've heard is that 555 wasn't sold in Europe at the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allez Andruet
That could be it.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Sure they did, but the interpretation of whatever authority it was, obviously changed during 1995-1996. I'm willing to buy the theory AnttiL presented.Quote:
Originally Posted by OHL
Yes 555 is tobacco company, part of British American tobacco along with lucky strike. Hence why some of the Subaru's had *555 BAT prefix number plates.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
They were also title sponsor of BAR F1 team that ran lucky strike livery. Back in the day when Dave Richards was running BAR they wanted to run one car in 555 blue and yellow livery, and one car in white and red lucky strike livery. This was not allowed by FIA, so one solution was to run the cars with the livery of each tobacco company on each side of the car split down the middle.
This was only used for one or two practice sessions though I believe. (I know it's F1 but kind of interesting)