Well, Paraguay championship looks more and more interesting. Interesting to see they follow FIA R5, whereas Argentina is full Maxi Rally now.
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Well, Paraguay championship looks more and more interesting. Interesting to see they follow FIA R5, whereas Argentina is full Maxi Rally now.
Last week there was a news on Rallynoticias.com website saying that team Baratec are aiming to take one Maxi Rally car to Europe, probably Spain, to take part in rallies under RC2 class, as the Maxi Rally cars are homologated in this class now.Quote:
Originally Posted by vino_93
http://rallynoticias.com/nivel2.php?id_noticia=7770
italian rumours tells fiat 500x r5 is under consideration. Anything in it?
[quote=Co-driven][quote="vino_93":3sd7bpcl]Well, Paraguay championship looks more and more interesting. Interesting to see they follow FIA R5, whereas Argentina is full Maxi Rally now.[/quote]
Last week there was a news on Rallynoticias.com website saying that team Baratec are aiming to take one Maxi Rally car to Europe, probably Spain, to take part in rallies under RC2 class, as the Maxi Rally cars are homologated in this class now.
[url="http://rallynoticias.com/nivel2.php?id_noticia=7770"]http://rallynoticias.com/nivel2.php?id_noticia=7770[/url][/quote:3sd7bpcl]
For 2014 ?
That's strange as MR were homologated in class 3 in 2012, but banned in 2013 ...
Printsport, should be chassis 36 or 37
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frank tore larsen og thorstein eriksen (adapta) testing today.
So, PY63 LWD turns KF 81165
2014 Livery for Larsen/Eriksen
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DG Sport from Belgium would have ordered a 208 T16 ;)
Pieter Tsjoen among the interested drivers...
[quote=vino_93][quote="Co-driven":12lf2ibf][quote="vino_93":12lf2ibf]Well, Paraguay championship looks more and more interesting. Interesting to see they follow FIA R5, whereas Argentina is full Maxi Rally now.[/quote]
Last week there was a news on Rallynoticias.com website saying that team Baratec are aiming to take one Maxi Rally car to Europe, probably Spain, to take part in rallies under RC2 class, as the Maxi Rally cars are homologated in this class now.
[url="http://rallynoticias.com/nivel2.php?id_noticia=7770"]http://rallynoticias.com/nivel2.php?id_noticia=7770[/url][/quote:12lf2ibf]
For 2014 ?
That's strange as MR were homologated in class 3 in 2012, but banned in 2013 ...[/quote:12lf2ibf]
I think that the VW Gol Maxi Rally is homologated and can take part in the Codasur Championship.
I heard that FIAT will replace Punto with a 500-looking punto-sized car. Let's hope your rumours are true and we'll see FIAT back. The FIAT Punto was an amazing car!Quote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
[quote=Co-driven]For 2014 ?Quote:
Originally Posted by vino_93":2tt2ykw9][quote="Co-driven":2tt2ykw9]
Last week there was a news on Rallynoticias.com website saying that team Baratec are aiming to take one Maxi Rally car to Europe, probably Spain, to take part in rallies under RC2 class, as the Maxi Rally cars are homologated in this class now.
[url="http://rallynoticias.com/nivel2.php?id_noticia=7770
That's strange as MR were homologated in class 3 in 2012, but banned in 2013 ...[/quote:2tt2ykw9]
I think that the VW Gol Maxi Rally is homologated and can take part in the Codasur Championship.[/quote:2tt2ykw9]
so it seems FIA make one step back, one step forward ... by the way that's good that they have understood that their regulations are bullshit for local rally series which can't afford R5.
So now that Argentinan's Maxi Rally, Australian's G2 and Japanese's JN are allowed, it will attract more contenders in Codasur and APRC.
Now I hope New Zealand's Maxi Rally will be allowed in APRC the years coming too :)
Latvian Martins Svilis has entered local rallysprint "Al?ksne 2013" (18.01) on Fiesta R5. Perhaps as a test event before ERC "Rally Liep?ja". No additional info where car comes from (very unlikely that he has purchased it), maybe rented from MM-Motorsport ..?
From Italy, Friulmotor(Claudio de Cecco)has ordered one 208 T16 ;)
Try & Frustųl have received cars, gotten on livery and started testing!
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Larsen/Eriksen: Ford Fiesta R5 - Winter Test 2014
About 208 R5 and DS3 R5 on autosport.pt:
"One of the riders who have tested the models and also had access to only R5 approved so far will have been complained about the performance of French cars in several areas, which sounded alarms in the structures responsible for their development. Meeting the deadlines will only be guaranteed at the beginning or middle of February."
I don't know if it's correct, but I have already heard here in South America people saying that both the 208 and DS3 will be slower than the Fiesta. This come specially from Paraguay, where there's already two Fiesta R5, and some other S2000. I really didn't believe on this, but now that you said this, the rumour could be right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Interesting, as I've been wondering why PSA would miss Monte Carlo with 208 T16 due to changed (?) later homologation day. Maybe it has some truth to it?
The 208 looked very raw in Ypres, and we haven't seen much testing footage since really.
Didn't Peugeot pretty much confirm that they weren't quite happy with some things and hence delayed homologation?
I believe the main concern was about the engine. Maybe it was a mistake to go for a long-stroke engine (they took the stock 1.6T EP6CDT) while others decided to base the engine on larger production unit and to shorten the stroke to get in the 1.6 litre displacement. That's the case of M-Sport and koda who by making that got to the bore/stroke ratio basically same as it is used in modern purpose built WRC 1.6T engines. Of course the R5 engine is different but I guess the general consequences apply and PSA might have done same mistake as Prodrive/Mini with that point. I'm no expert but I believe all others know well what they are doing when they change for short stroke units.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
I read in auto hebdo some weeks ago they both have a problem with suspension, that's why they postponned first homologation.
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Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Do they also write there are already 60 orders for both 208 and DS3 :confused:
Helpful 'spot-the-difference graphic to differentiate between @DovenbyHall's Fiesta R5 and RS WRC ;)
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"KIA" Fiesta R5 :crazy:
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:laugh:
Please explain!Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Didier Arias' Fiesta R5 with Kia sponsorship :D
Unbelievable! I've seen it all now... :eek: :laugh:
Isakssen were European Rallycross Champion with Ford Focus with Volvo sponsorship, so...
I saw stuff like that several times in the past too. For example Subaru with Peugeot dealer sponsorship...
Steveny has done that in the past too and it was also Kia the dealership from Hannut that was his sponsor (or even his own dealership.. not sure anymore).
It's Didier Arias car. I think he is the Kia importer in Paraguay.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
He has always competed with Kia sponsorship, with Subaru and Mitsubishi.
[quote=Co-driven][quote=RS][quote="Andre Oliveira":6t1unhgd]"KIA" Fiesta R5 :crazy:
Please explain![/quote]
It's Didier Arias car. I think he is the Kia importer in Paraguay.
He has always competed with Kia sponsorship, with Subaru and Mitsubishi.[/quote][/quote:6t1unhgd]
Garden Grupo
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Jeep also as sponsor with green sticker
Indeed might it even be based on the same engine as I believe PSA and BMW share engines?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
So, have Peugeot gone back to square one and started with a new engine to cure this problem?
don't get me wrong. I don't know if that is a problem. I just find it as a clear difference in the approach compared to competitors.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
You are right that the basis of engine for Mini WRC and 208 R5 is same. I only think it's different version as meanwhile Peugeot introduced new top variant of stock unit which might be more suitable for use in R5.
PSA have also some problems with gearbox quality, etc.
I have a question with regards to the 208.
My understanding of the homologation procedures was that a homologation can only be done once a quarter of a year - so basically 1/1, 1/4, 1/7 or 1/10.
From that logic, the 208 will be allowed no earlier than 1/4 this year. However, Peugeot Sport have already announced Breen and Abbring in 208's at Acropolis for its competition début. Granted, the rally is March 28th-30th, but surely you cannot bend rules due to a quirk in the calendar year?
I am asking because several rallies start on either March 28th or 29th, so I guess if Peugeot Sport are allowed in Acropolis then privateers would be allowed to drive 208s (if delivered of course) on these other rallies?