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Ogier is very clever. He knows that much of next year's championship interest is on VW shoulders, so he says to the press that things may not be at 100% from the beginning, so that everyone dosen't start to say they are rubish if they dont do well in the first half of the year.
Maybe they had a lot more power just to test drivetrain in the beginning of testing?Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
It might be possible. Their approach to make the car stable & strong initially might suggest that too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
It is true that VW are in north of Portugal at city of Vieira do Minho to testing tomorrow?
I don't really think people are expecting from them to win right from the start. And with current Rally standards there is no room for big surprises as we had seen some in the past. May be Ogier is just like that, wants to win always, and may be this a French thing ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
Is VW the new Citroen and Ogier the new Loeb? Maybe 2013 will be the start of something fantastic like 2003 was the start of the Citroen full championship story!
Ironi?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Pretty hard within the rules to do much more than the next motor. Very locked down with everything they regulate.
Citroen doesn't hold the Manu record, unlike Loeb for Drivers, it is Lancia. But probably you're somewhat right, 2013 will begin new, more exciting era for WRC, lets hope so... Doubtfully though it will be "one man show", later years new Manus will come from east also, competition grows bigger...Quote:
Originally Posted by J.Lindstroem
i think so...Quote:
Originally Posted by J.Lindstroem
Inte ironi.Quote:
Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
If you want a full test of for example drive train, you just put as much power you can to see where things broke. My way of trying to explain why the engine sounded so much more than todays car which I believe is similar to regulations. But not the first testing car which didn´t need to... Förstår du vad jag menar?
They could have used a 2 litre engine with no limitation on turbo. Which made the car having 400+ hp without any difficulties.
or without restrictor at same engine
Shock loading is more acute on gravelQuote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
http://i47.tinypic.com/1e89k0.jpg
Sainz & Moya started today a session of four days of testing with the Polo WRC in the south of Portugal.
Rally Legend is coming.
These days nearly every part is designed using CAD--computer aided drafting, and even low entry level commericial CAD/CAM programs have FEA (Finite Element Analysis) baked in... engineering data on materials is accounted for and is long since known---the computers justy make it so even ignoratnes like me can go clicky clack clicky and know before the chips start flying the ultimate strength of components...Things like bearing strength and life have been in the back of everybodys paper katalog since forever so there's a lot of known knowns before you open the chuck in the lathe...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
I've been making stuff for jössös like more than 40 years and it ain‘t like it was.
Reagarding Fords like my Sierra thing, I started seeing about 92 and forsure by '93 all sorts of things that were formerly hand machined and maybe welded up things---like say alternator mount that suddenly were made from 100% machined chucks of aluminum--I knew then that the computing power that OEMs had in mainline jobs--where you are going to make 1,000,000 of the same thing (and the investment of computer time, programming time and machine tool time is worth it) had reached short run level...
And even an old dino like me has used this CAD/CAM and FEA capability when designing some suspension junk for em and my friend Kevin "the Chin" Hawkinson (Kevin's family comes from därborta so I explained what his name should be: Håkansson and if he says it HAWKINson it sounds like ''Hakan'' and he does have a prominent chin so maybe ''Hakanson'' is better. But that's not important----we watch a LOT of F+cup härborta i rally världens mesta u-land so everybody who gets really sideways is blessed eller döpt´---with an honorary Finnish smeknamn and Kevin's is ''Kevvi Hoikansainalainenen''. aren't you glad you asked? )
In any case it is torque eller vrid that stresses gears and bearings and diffs etc.
2,0 34mm restrictor motors made plenty of torque....
I don't think so. You can never get so much torque on wheels on gravel like You have on dry asphalt startline just from the adhesion. I would say most of the broken driveshafts or diffs come from starts and 1st gear corners on asphalt. Most of the privateers here on asphalt think about these particular situations to be able to finish...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
Today morning in Trier
http://www.abload.de/img/p9260017clo6n.jpg
It is said that Sainz had a little off yesterday. Today the team was repairing the car. Driving Miss Daisy season ended.
@rallye-vid is that the new body kit? I can't tell...
Doesn't look like the new Polo. Only one vent on the bonnet and the front grill is different i thinkQuote:
Originally Posted by Plan9
Different fender flares as well
Is Lappi linked to VW/Škoda?
If I have good info he will be with Škoda at least next year.
with a factory team?if yes who will go out?Kopecky or Juha?
Not with factory team. I think both Jan and Juho stay.
Test Polo WRC - YouTube
Test after Alsace
Will Skoda UK go for another foreigner, or will EVEN Rally do ERC or WRC2 with Lappi?
Will Skoda UK even be an entrant next season?
Skoda said they are waiting for the release of the 2013 calendar for ERC to see
What could they want to see?Quote:
Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1
To see where rallies are. To see calendar. Sorry
No need ;) I suppose they want to fit some logistics/race budget then.Quote:
Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1
Now that it is official that VW have signed both Sebastien Ogier and Jari Matti, both young drivers with 2year plus 1 option, where does this leave Andreas Mikkelsen in the pecking order? Officially he hasnt signed with VW but I guess we all expect it, or will he(or his management) feel that he would be better off as number 2 in a Hyundai. I wonder if 2014 line up will be Ogier / Latvala in VW and Hyundai Sordo / Mikkelsen? Just a thought.
Mickkelsen will be seen in a PoloWRC during the season. Don't think he's going anywhere.
I don't understand who will be the number one driver in that team. They're both the fastest driver in the sport, but I don't think either are going to give each other leeway. But I guess it does give a very good chance for the manufacturer championship which is most important.Quote:
Originally Posted by MJW
Who needs number ones? :) At least they can't take each other off...
I think Ogier will be regarded as No 1, or in PR terms, they'll both be equal No 1s.
Capito said somewhere there will be no No.1 driver at the start of the season.
Later, the one with more points and chances for a champion will get more support from the other one