F1 going to Sky

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

Why? Millions of people watch it, which hardly backs up your assertion.

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Because I have sent several letters asking them to stop making/broadcasting it :D

It was meant to be a tongue in cheek comment but somewhat factual too. Sorry I should have used some sort of smiley, out of forum practice and forgot the etiquete :p .

The BBC will never listen to public opinion, no matter who or how many shout, it will be a futile exercise. The deal is already done and we the British public still get decent F1 coverage for all races, albeit either pay to view or highlights. I think it's time to accept it.

It's nice to see that some things never change on here and what started out as a simple discussion has turned into a political rant match.......

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Originally Posted by CarlMetro

Because I have sent several letters asking them to stop making/broadcasting it :D

It was meant to be a tongue in cheek comment but somewhat factual too. Sorry I should have used some sort of smiley, out of forum practice and forgot the etiquete :p .

The BBC will never listen to public opinion, no matter who or how many shout, it will be a futile exercise. The deal is already done and we the British public still get decent F1 coverage for all races, albeit either pay to view or highlights. I think it's time to accept it.

It's nice to see that some things never change on here and what started out as a simple discussion has turned into a political rant match.......

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To be fair, what Murdoch's minions did was rather terrible and it's understandable that a Sky thread would go off topic.

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Originally Posted by CarlMetro

The BBC will never listen to public opinion, no matter who or how many shout, it will be a futile exercise.

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What, like it was when it reversed the decision to scrap 6Music?

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Originally Posted by CarlMetro

It's nice to see that some things never change on here and what started out as a simple discussion has turned into a political rant match.......

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This is, to be fair, a deeply political issue — not just F1 politics either, but actual politics.

It's got nothing to do with politics unless you wish to make it so, but then why am I surprised that you wish to make it so?

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Originally Posted by CarlMetro

It's got nothing to do with politics unless you wish to make it so, but then why am I surprised that you wish to make it so?

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It has everything to do with politics! I'm not sure the reason why truly needs explaining, either — after all, there is hardly a long and convoluted journey between how government cuts are impacting upon the BBC and its decision to go for this F1 deal with Sky.

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Originally Posted by CarlMetro

It's got nothing to do with politics unless you wish to make it so, but then why am I surprised that you wish to make it so?

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Ah come on Carl, F1 has everything to do with politics.

The Government have enforced a budget freeze on the BBC, not cuts. The BBC have made the decision to cut budgets. This is nothing to do with Murdoch, Cameron, Brown, Blair or Churchill. The BBC have decided that they wanted to dump F1 and save around £55 million a year, still not seeing the political connection here. Bernie, who has an obligation to the F1 teams under the Concorde agreement, to provide live television coverage for every single race into the main viewing areas across the globe. Bernie did what anyone of us in his position would have done. He went out and got the best deal for himself and his shareholders.

At no point did I hear the BBC say over the weekend that they have been forced into this decision by Cameron, Clegg, Brown or any other political measure. At no point did I hear Bernie say that he wanted to take F1 away from the BBC, far from it in fact, he's just treid to do what is best for FOM and still tried to keep the BBC involved when they would probably prefer to just dump it completely. Which is exactly what they would have done at the end of 2013, if not sooner.

There were many different ways in which the BBC could have made similar savings but the chose the route they have. Accept it and move on.

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Originally Posted by CarlMetro

The Government have enforced a budget freeze on the BBC, not cuts. The BBC have made the decision to cut budgets. This is nothing to do with Murdoch, Cameron, Brown, Blair or Churchill. The BBC have decided that they wanted to dump F1 and save around £55 million a year, still not seeing the political connection here. Bernie, who has an obligation to the F1 teams under the Concorde agreement, to provide live television coverage for every single race into the main viewing areas across the globe. Bernie did what anyone of us in his position would have done. He went out and got the best deal for himself and his shareholders.

At no point did I hear the BBC say over the weekend that they have been forced into this decision by Cameron, Clegg, Brown or any other political measure. At no point did I hear Bernie say that he wanted to take F1 away from the BBC, far from it in fact, he's just treid to do what is best for FOM and still tried to keep the BBC involved when they would probably prefer to just dump it completely. Which is exactly what they would have done at the end of 2013, if not sooner.

There were many different ways in which the BBC could have made similar savings but the chose the route they have. Accept it and move on.

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With respect, you are missing the point somewhat, except regarding Bernie's primary motivation (though I would question his level of altruism towards the BBC). It is simply impossible to discuss anything relating to BBC cuts and the Murdoch press without politics entering into the equation, because they are deeply interconnected. No-one is suggesting that the PM contacted the BBC and advised them to drop live F1 coverage, but I am surprised that you can't see how this decision forms part of a wider issue, and that issue is a highly political one. I don't think it's that hard to comprehend why this discussion has itself come onto politics. Sorry if it bores you, but it is, I feel, relevant.

Yeah well, whatever blah blah blah.....bored now.

I'll leave you to make up your political conspiracies and let you turn yet another perfectly good discussion into yet another political rant. I've got better things to do.

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Originally Posted by CarlMetro

Yeah well, whatever blah blah blah.....bored now.

I'll leave you to make up your political conspiracies and let you turn yet another perfectly good discussion into yet another political rant. I've got better things to do.

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Just because you aren't interested in politics doesn't mean to say that this goes for everyone — still, I am surprised you can't see the direct relevancy. And, frankly, saying that we're on about conspiracy theories is way wide of the mark.