Pirelli

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Originally Posted by henners88

Pirelli are doing a great job as far as I am concerned.

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Indeed - I was quite vocal as to the suitability of Pirelli during pre-season testing, not only based on their previous performance in F1, but because the degradation in the tests was extreme, and it was a concern as to the suitability of the tyres for the task.

However, the racing has, without doubt, been enhanced by the use of Pirelli tyres, and the sport has been the better for it IMHO.

Pirelli are doing a fantastic job this season :up:

They were given a mandate by the FIA, and not only have they met it, I suspect they have exceeded all expectations anyone had.

And now they are pointing the finger to RBR for the soft tire blistering problem:

Pirelli points finger at Red Bull over Spa tyre controversy - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com

Strange how Alonso's and Button's front left tire was also blistering just like on the RBRs.

What is highly concerning is what Newey mentions at the end of that article:

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Originally Posted by autosport.com

Red Bull Racing technical chief Adrian Newey admitted that his outfit had been worried about the tyre situation in the build-up to the race.

Speaking to the BBC about how he felt, he said: "I have to say, it is one of the scariest races I have been involved in ever. It is heart-in-the-mouth stuff, because first and foremost our duty of care is to the drivers' safety, and you are trying to make that call or making sure the car is safe while not excessively handicapping ourselves from a performance point of view.

"I found it quite a difficult judgement to make, and at the end of the race I was very relieved that both our drivers were safe."

"Around 5pm yesterday evening Pirelli came to us and said that having looked at our tyres from qualifying they were concerned about the safety of the tyres and that they could be suffering structural damage in the junction between the sidewall and the tread, and felt that failure of the tyre could be imminent on both cars," he added. "It was very concerning... We then entered into a lot of debate with Pirelli about what we should do. They recommended that higher front pressure would make the tyre safer, as would reduced camber – but without permission from the FIA reducing the front camber would be in breach of parc ferme regulations, so we would have to start from the pitlane."

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Pirelli should get their crap together before someone get's a huge problem due to their sub-par tires.
Looks like if they would be running at the Indianapolis track this tire wouldn't hold more then 1 or 2 laps. :down:

To be fair, weren't RBR running their tyres with more camber than Pirelli spec for the tyres?

We didn't see any failures though, but I'd be interested to see just how close we got to failures......

Seen worse

In the late 90s Goodyear tyres were terrible in F1 and Indycar. With blisters the tyres completely dropped off which wasn't quite the case at Spa this year.

I seem to remember one race where Schumi had a tyre failure due to blistered Goodyears.

"Plus we all know what a liar Fred and Ferrari are. Damn cheats they are."

You mean more than McLaren and LH?

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Originally Posted by henners88

Sorry I'm trying to find the connection in the previous posts that made you say that? Has anyone actually accused Alonso and Ferrari of being cheats for you to respond with what looks like an unconnected POV? :confused: :confused:

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I completely agree Henners, it's about as relevant to this thread as your comment on the Webber thread about Hamilton getting criticised :laugh:

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Originally Posted by henners88

Well there you go again proving that my comment in your new thread is correct. I compared two drivers. No discussion of cheating has taken place here so the comment was unrelated!

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Henners, I actually agree with you that this post by mstillhere seems to be right out of the blue, but do you not see it as being a teeny little bit strange to feel the need to go further than calling Webber's overtake Hamiltonesque (fair comment) and go on to complain about how people would have theoretically criticised Hamilton for doing the same thing? It wasn't meant to be yet another Hamilton persecution thread and lets leave it there.

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Originally Posted by henners88

Lets leave it there.

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Maybe Red Bull should run the tires within the constraints of the setup allowances?

Martin Whitmarsh also stated that Red Bull had pushed the setup too far. Though his driver finished in third, he didn't blame the tires.

Horner himself said that the lack of dry running in practice sessions combined with the unique forces on the tires at Spa were a very large contributing factor.



And unlike the situation at Indy, there were no failure pitching someone into a wall at high speed.

No real story to read here. Blistering tires on a Formula 1 car. This must be a first right?