Renault get a 2 year suspended ban

Legally speaking under English/Welsh law, which I believe is what applies here as Renault operates from England. You can still sue for wrongful or constructive dismissal even if you resigned yourself. If you can prove that you had no option but to quit.

However no case Flavio Briatore brought would be likely to be successful. As there is overwhelming evidence of gross misconduct.

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Originally Posted by Mark

Legally speaking under English/Welsh law, which I believe is what applies here as Renault operates from England. You can still sue for wrongful or constructive dismissal even if you resigned yourself. If you can prove that you had no option but to quit.

However no case Flavio Briatore brought would be likely to be successful. As there is overwhelming evidence of gross misconduct.

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Flav was going to sue the two Piquets also. He wouldn't dare sue over this case as a lot more evidence may come out further incriminating him. I reckon the guy is all bluff but no show anymore.

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Originally Posted by Dave Brockman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O7zZDNBKks :p

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LMFAOOOO!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by henners88

I agree with what you are saying and I feel disappointed that a man of his experience would choose to deceive the entire paddock with such a risky strategy. The fact that he is banned from F1 is a punishment he'll have to live with and could ultimately have brought his career to a premature end. It also means F1 is worse off as a result too, as he is one of the best minds in current F1, and by doing it, he has forced himself into early retirement..

Stupid, stupid boy :(

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What I still don't understand is Piquet was offered immunity to come forward about Renault, yet it now seems that it was Nelsinho who came up with the idea and put it to Symonds, Witness X and Flav? Hopefully we'll never see him in F1 again either - although his results suggest we won't ;)

As for Symonds...it's odd what seemingly decent people, as Pat appears to be, will do when under pressure. Renault lacked results, the car was a dog, sponsors were unhappy. In the cold light of day it was idiotic but many people in many walks of life make similar mistakes...just look at banks!

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I know very well what the system in France is which is why I said in FAIR justice systems. France's system is not right.

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You know nothing.

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But I see Symonds has admitted according to a report in Autosport and he is saying he will "eternally regret etc". I am not surprised he turned out to be weak. He looks like a weak character.

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A weak character would probably have taken the immunity offer and implicated Briatore.

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Originally Posted by Rudy Tamasz

Let us imagine, somebody is leading a race by two laps (and that has happened) but knows he will run short of fuel. He crashes real bad, causes a red flag and becomes the winner because he was still in the lead technically.

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Thing about that is that, today, it's virtually impossible to bring out a red flag - in days of yore, Piquet's little stunt would have done so, but now they bring out the SC.

Remember, the last non-weather-related red flag was six years ago. Since when the regs have been altered to raise the bar still further for a red flag situation (basically, the track would need to be literally impassible because of weather - as in Malaysia this year - or because the track was completely blocked by a pile-up).

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Thing about that is that, today, it's virtually impossible to bring out a red flag - in days of yore, Piquet's little stunt would have done so, but now they bring out the SC.

Remember, the last non-weather-related red flag was six years ago. Since when the regs have been altered to raise the bar still further for a red flag situation (basically, the track would need to be literally impassible because of weather - as in Malaysia this year - or because the track was completely blocked by a pile-up).

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The penalty the FIA is giving does sound extremely harsh.

I have here the rule at the Las Vegas Motor Speedway "Bullring" race track for something similar to what Piquet did.

Rule 1.12.1 "The Race Director reserves the right to penalize any driver one (1) lap for intentionally causing a (safety car)." Most tracks also state no wave-arounds or beneficiary rule.

NASCAR has a rule, Article 12, Rule 4, Section N, "intentionally causing a (safety car) during the race".

A 10-point penalty would have been suitable for Renault in that race for "intentionally causing a safety car".

Hm, interesting. But then the attitude to bending or breaking the rules is different in Europe and the U.S.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78843

Good old Flav planning revenge now.

It's obvious he wouldn't have much of a chance through the courts but what about a Christmas best seller. I would read that!!!

Could you imagine the s**t he has in his back pocket? The first Schumacher WDC fix, the dodgy deals and the electronic cheats of Tad's era.

Apart from the next head of the FIA, the current head of the FIA and Bernie, I don't think there's anyone that knows more about the shady side of F1. It's going to come out one day and perhaps this is it?