Rally Wrc Monte Carlo 2017

After having watched Evan's onboards on ss3 and 4 i would say i did a good job of even reaching the finish, looks like driving on slicks with those tyres

But what about Bergkvist? He was very slow everytime a saw him pass. Did he had some problem with the car or something? I hope so otherwise I fear the guy is not the huge talent he seemed.


p.s. thank god Rallyper doesn't know where I live :spinhead:

reading all these comments and conversations about Evans and Dmack makes me appreciate Tänak's 16 season even more.


for me the performance isnt weird at all, the tyre just isnt as universal as michelin.

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Originally Posted by AL14

But what about Bergkvist? He was very slow everytime a saw him pass. Did he had some problem with the car or something? I hope so otherwise I fear the guy is not the huge talent he seemed.


p.s. thank god Rallyper doesn't know where I live :spinhead:

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Bergkvist had various problems.Broken gearbox on Thursday night,several punctures during the next 2 days and brake troubles on Sunday.Adding that to the fact that the DS3 is not competitive and it will be soon be replaced by a C3 model, you get the picture.

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Originally Posted by macebig

Bergkvist had various problems.Broken gearbox on Thursday night,several punctures during the next 2 days and brake troubles on Sunday.Adding that to the fact that the DS3 is not competitive and it will be soon be replaced by a C3 model, you get the picture.

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Thanks, I was not aware of these trouble, I'm pretty sure he had that brake issues when I saw him then, he seemed not competitive at all.

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Originally Posted by EstWRC

reading all these comments and conversations about Evans and Dmack makes me appreciate Tänak's 16 season even more.


for me the performance isnt weird at all, the tyre just isnt as universal as michelin.

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Obviously, DMack has take alternative risk as they took last year (a bit softer compound for gravel). They made a tyre that is likely to work very well on little bit frozen asphalt, dry aspalt, humid asphalt and not working in snowy-slushy conditions. Looking back to the last years average Monte, it was relatively wise decision, This year was just relatively exceptional Monte :) Not average ;) So and they failed on that field and excelled on the other field (dry stages).

Re Evans slowness then speed:

Perhaps his tyre issues on the Friday, especially the morning, were due to his off into Ogier's ditch. He really struggled and scrambled out himself whereas Ogier waited for fan help. Perhaps this weakened/lost the studs and therefore his grip on the remaining stage/s..

His good times later on in the rally were on the Soft/ Supersofts, not studded. The other runners were also on similar (Michelin) tyres so his wins there were fair and square.

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Originally Posted by rage82

Don't get me wrong I'm a big fan of Meeke and Citroen but he finished only 2 stages before retiring setting 4-th and 3-rd fastest time and on Saturday he was slower than most of his rivals. He has some problems with the car also so you are maybe right that he was driving only to collect data, maybe my expectations were set very high as I was hoping he could probably fight for the win.



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yeh I had him down for the win too. Shame about the road incident that put him out of Sunday's running, anything Kris had in his pocket he would have shown it in the power stage, and his road position would have put him in front of Neuville in the running order so would have earned 4 or 5 points with the weather change on that last stage.

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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

Re Evans slowness then speed:

Perhaps his tyre issues on the Friday, especially the morning, were due to his off into Ogier's ditch. He really struggled and scrambled out himself whereas Ogier waited for fan help. Perhaps this weakened/lost the studs and therefore his grip on the remaining stage/s..

His good times later on in the rally were on the Soft/ Supersofts, not studded. The other runners were also on similar (Michelin) tyres so his wins there were fair and square.

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His bad times were on studded. The other runners were also on similar (Michelin) tires, so his epic timeloss was fair and square.

#logic

Now again in even simpler language: If one tire type from DMACK can be much worse, then other can also be much better. Remember Pirelli? On dry tarmac 0.5s/km slower, on wet tarmac 1s/km faster.

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Originally Posted by AL14

But what about Bergkvist? He was very slow everytime a saw him pass. Did he had some problem with the car or something? I hope so otherwise I fear the guy is not the huge talent he seemed.


p.s. thank god Rallyper doesn't know where I live :spinhead:

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And all experienced fellows on this forum should be aware of, as in other youngsters cases, that Emil was in Monaco to learn, to drive through, and finish. He wasn´t there to win this year. Compared to other favourites of yours he has maybe 3-4 times more to prove his speed in Monte.

Btw wait untill Sweden and we could see better performance, less learning.

@AL14 I know your mailbox. ;)