there is no "logic" in itQuote:
Originally Posted by logic
Test DS3 WRC Sébastien Loeb - Rallye Monte Carlo 2013 [HD] - YouTube
loeb testing (properly)
mini JCW sound at 2:13 ???
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there is no "logic" in itQuote:
Originally Posted by logic
Test DS3 WRC Sébastien Loeb - Rallye Monte Carlo 2013 [HD] - YouTube
loeb testing (properly)
mini JCW sound at 2:13 ???
I reckon its Citroens to lose, Loeb will score well on all the rounds he contests and theres many a team that would love a Hirvonen / Sordo combo.Quote:
Originally Posted by logic
Also I dont think Mads is quick enough, although I'll be very glad if he proves me wrong.
Bottom line is, Ford is screwed without Petter.
Petter did nothing at ford!!
Mads was not that quick because he had limited testing before the events due to the budget. Will see next year now he is part of the works team how he gets on. I think he will do well.
When was the last time Ford won them? There is nothing to loose. They didn't win anything with previous driver lineups so the only way is to try something else.Quote:
Originally Posted by logic
Wow ! ... some pace around the corners ... and yeah JCW at 2:13 :)Quote:
Originally Posted by oyunbozan
I think Mads is more "mature" than neuville, atleast this season. Mads has done really good results with wery litle testing, and second best car. Hopefully he keep up the good work next year too!
but what will novikov do? Remembering he said once that it was the second seat in msport, or no Ford? Swap with neuville? Not mini, no?
Of course Mads is more mature and consistent than Thierry, no doubt about that... But remember that Mads is around in WRC with a WRC since 2007 (he did half WRC season in '07, '08, '09, '10 and full seasons in '11 and '12). If we compare Neuville his experience to it: 2007 nothing (very few regional events, nothing that gives you experience), 2008 season with Fiesta in Belgian trophy, 2009 season with C2 in Belgian trophy + a few French events + Catalunya and Valais, 2010 half IRC-program + JWRC, 2011 full IRC-program, 2012 full WRC-program... He may be just one year older than Thierry but the difference in experience is very big, in let's say 8,5 of the 13 events he was there for the first time and had everything to discover... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
ostberg at the top seat won't be having the same issues with adapta making bad setups, somethings are wrong with the car most of the time, and neuville will show more pottential at certain rallies, on asphalt he is faster imo.
Sordo will test shortly in Mazamet.
Yes, well. Let's see if they register as a manufacturer first. You're getting a little ahead of yourself...Quote:
Originally Posted by logic
The owls are not what they seem ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
I really wish you all well coming season. Evgeny will surprise us all, I´m sure. I know what he can do now when matured a lot!Quote:
Originally Posted by Xsara Fan
Mads had not full seasons in 2011 and 2012!Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
No, he missed 1 or 2 rallies... This doesn't change the point Tom is making: he is far more experienced then Neuville!!Quote:
Originally Posted by VFTS
NEWS: Reeves to drive in Australian Rally Championships as well as Rally America Championships in 2013....
Estonian media is reporting that Ott Tänak wasn't on the Monte Carlo entry list.
Novikov and Neuville both Nr.2 in M-Sport!
Novikov and Neuville join Qatar M-Sport quartet for 2013
Piloting the Ford Fiesta RS WRC on all 13 rounds of next season’s championship, both drivers will represent the State of Qatar alongside Nasser Al-Attiyah and Mads Østberg as the quartet look to make their mark on the world stage.
And Jänner?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bartolbia84
That's great!Quote:
Originally Posted by tolis
So, Ostberg, Neuville and Novikov on ALL rounds in the Qatar M-Sport team. :)
I guess this couldn't have been better for Malcolm too. Now he has some extra cash from Neuville (with Qatar paying it for him?) AND also from Novikov. :p
Very curious to see what 5 M-sport boys can do against works teams.
I am a little bit worried about the rest of the WRC entries that are not confirmed yet. For Monte we only have so far 9 confirmed (maybe 10 with Delecour). What's the news on Atkinson, Prokop, Araujo, Tanak, Oliveira, Block, Henning, etc?
Cash from Neuville?! Explain why "he has some extra cash from Neuville" please. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by EightGear
M-Sport may have to build an additional factory to produce more spare parts!!!Bumpers,suspensions and spoilers! :p
I meant with Qatar paying his seat. I'm sure I read somewhere that Nasser wanted him and wanted to pay for it if necessary.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
With Jari-Matti and Petter gone they still have some margin... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho!
Ok, but no cash from Neuville, that would be very confusing. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by EightGear
I know, I never said he brought his own $€$$$€€€€.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
Great news about Neuville and Novikov. And with Mikkelsen in the 3-rd Polo I think it's 100% sure we would see some nice battles between this young drivers.
And 1 question - can all the 3 (4) cars score points for manu championship or only 2 nominated crews?
I'm really pleased to see so many youngsters with full programs. And the M-sport team is now stronger than ever in his first year without factory support (note what Prodrive have achieved in this situation).
"now stronger than ever"? I think not.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlowSon
Ok then after Sainz and Mcrae which was a decade ago, only my opinion and I'm not gonna argue for that.
wait... who is on 2nd seat of m-sport main team? attiyah? :(
stronger for the future definately but is there stutter for Msport? Is the Qatar sponsorship for one or more years?Quote:
Originally Posted by noel157
I think that Nueville will be faster than Ostberg in ss speed. Maybe Novikov also.... At least, next year seems much more fun for spectators. We will have close battles in the first 6-8 places I preddict. I cannot see anyone having a big advantage
Prokop 10 Rallyes
Prokop sur 10 Manches minimum avec une Fiesta Wrc
Definitely it's not stronger than Gronholm/Hirvonen were.
Anyway in my opinion M-Sport future can be in fact very good even without Ford. Citroën and VW seem not take care about customer programs unless those customers bring hell of a money (at least to Citroën) and Prodrive doesn't offer a package interesting enough to take over M-Sport customers. So M-Sport can continue to work basically same as they always did.
So I guess Wilson will switch nominations for the second car depending on who he thinks is best for each round.
For Monte I would go Hanninen.
I don`t think so.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
That's unfortuante. I thought he had a lot of potential. For one, he wasn't as crash-happy as Novikov ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bartolbia84
I, think Wilson will choose between those 3Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
MC: Neuville and Östberg
Sweden: Novikov and Östberg
Mexico: hard to say
or he wasn´t as cash-happy as NovikovQuote:
Originally Posted by Prisoner Monkeys