Rally Italia Sardinia 2017

Great!Consecutive wins for Ford for the first time since 2009.An excellent first win for Tanak, who now has a realistic outsider's chance for the title.Ogier was nowhere, but he managed to really limit his loses.What a lucky guy he is.Lappi is a rising star.Positive rally for the Finnish village team overall.Not so good for Hyundai with Neuville running his mouth a bit, Paddon crashing twice and many problems for Sordo.And the least we talk about Citroen, the better...And the next two rallyes with lots of bumps and high speeds may be even worse for them...

Come on Ott get in there. Congrats. Poland and Finland suit him even better. Let's see how this continous.

Well deserved win Ott!

Waiting for Poland ;)

Rally Paradise‏*@rallyparadise
#WRC points after #RallyItaliaSardegna: @SebOgier 141 @thierryneuville 123 @OttTanak 108 @JariMattiWRC 107 @DaniSordo 70 @ElfynEvans 53

So what I just wrote...

They gave Kopecký notional time better than to Camilli because he was not part of WRC2 and by that Kopecký won by 0,9 seconds. Well this is quite incredible bullshit.

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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

Where are you EstWRC... you ok ??!! ;)

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i have been here all the time, just had a huge pressure and didnt want to jinx him BUT NOW......WUHUHUHUHUHUHUHUHUHUHUHUHUHUHUHUUHUHUHU, FINALLYYYYY, FINALLYYY

Tear in my eye writing this at the moment, it means just so much to me especially how sadly Märtins career ended. i have protected him like hell here (ok i admit i have overdone it at times) and elsewhere, always believed in him and that he has this speed and talent. Things are really starting to come together now, he is consistent now and learns all the time.


thank you guys here and thanks Ott ja Martin. what a day. i will never forget this. amazing.


Aitäh!

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Originally Posted by Mirek

So in the end Camilli wins RC2 few seconds ahead of Kopecký who wins WRC2 classification (they still haven't received notional time for SS18 so I hope the stweards won't make something crazy). Sadly nobody else was able to keep with them.

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Camilli lost the win because of stewards. Or better say due to clerk of the course.

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Originally Posted by Mirek

So what I just wrote...

They gave Kopecký notional time half minute better than to Camilli because he was not part of WRC2. Well this is quite incredible bullshit.

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They changed it. Now Kopecky has beaten Camilli "only" for 0.9...

Still, this is simply incredible nonsense.

I'm really happy for you EstWRC. I was a big fan of Märtin's and Park's back in the day and it's great to see that legacy going further.

As Colin Clark said, the first victory is the hardest, the others come much easier.

I'm still a bit hungover from going out last night but I will drink one on you later today :D

A much younger me had the chance to see Martin and Estonian fans at the start of the rally that ended with his inagural victory and being a Ford fan for years, I couldn't help but support them.It was really sad how things turned out then but now Tanak is continuing his legacy.Huge congrats to Ott and Estonian fans.They deserve this victory.

Well done to Ott, know he has been waiting for this moment for the past 2 years now, nice to see him finally on the top step of the podium, hope he will challenge for honors again next in his favorite rally & continue with his run of consistency. Also I must point out Lappi, what a drive, what a driver, only his 2nd time in a World Rally Car, finishing 4th ahead of Ogier (when the road position on the last 2 days was on the same level playing field) & took of his power stage win. Hope to see him challenge for a podium come the end of the year. Difficult stages ahead of everyone now as we are heading to the 2 fastest rallies in the calendar which are followed by a sudden switch to tarmac, we have got a really interesting season on our hands. Even if Ogier will take the title this year at least it won't be decided in Germany or Spain, they won't give it to him that easy.
On a less positive note, Citroen have got massive work to do if they want to stand any chance this year.

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Still, this is simply incredible nonsense.

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Unfortunatelly it is usual on WRC level. Another stupid decision by stewards yesterday - foreign help doesnt meen exclusion, but time penalty 60 minutes...

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Originally Posted by EstWRC

i have been here all the time, just had a huge pressure and didnt want to jinx him BUT NOW......WUHUHUHUHUHUHUHUHUHUHUHUHUHUHUHUUHUHUHU, FINALLYYYYY, FINALLYYY

Tear in my eye writing this at the moment, it means just so much to me especially how sadly Märtins career ended. i have protected him like hell here (ok i admit i have overdone it at times) and elsewhere, always believed in him and that he has this speed and talent. Things are really starting to come together now, he is consistent now and learns all the time.


thank you guys here and thanks Ott ja Martin. what a day. i will never forget this. amazing.


Aitäh!

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Congratulations Ott and congrats ESTwrc!!! You have been hanging in there like a true fan, well deserved to the both of you!

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So what I just wrote...

They gave Kopecký notional time better than to Camilli because he was not part of WRC2 and by that Kopecký won by 0,9 seconds. Well this is quite incredible bullshit.

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Thank god they fixed it :) Camilli 9th

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Originally Posted by PLuto

They changed it. Now Kopecky has beaten Camilli "only" for 0.9...

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And they changed it again, Malcolm was pushing. Now Camilli back to the win ;)

Imagine now if Latvala would have got his 13 seconds back....

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Originally Posted by PLuto

Unfortunatelly it is usual on WRC level. Another stupid decision by stewards yesterday - foreign help doesnt meen exclusion, but time penalty 60 minutes...

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what about are you reffering Pluto?

full drivers/manufacture standings
http://planetemarcus.com/saison-wrc/

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Imagine now if Latvala would have got his 13 seconds back....

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Then what? Tanak obviously cruised to victory. If Latvala had been closer he'd have driven faster.

Yazeed near crash at podium :D

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Well done to Ott, know he has been waiting for this moment for the past 2 years now, nice to see him finally on the top step of the podium, hope he will challenge for honors again next in his favorite rally & continue with his run of consistency. Also I must point out Lappi, what a drive, what a driver, only his 2nd time in a World Rally Car, finishing 4th ahead of Ogier (when the road position on the last 2 days was on the same level playing field) & took of his power stage win. Hope to see him challenge for a podium come the end of the year.

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While Lappi deserves the praise the second part is not true. Ogier lost 2 mins due to puncture. Otherwise he would have beaten Lappi during second day.
https://www.ewrc-results.com/leg/360...na-2017/?leg=3

what happen exactly and kopecky took notional time?dust?

No. Stopped stage after Paddon crash

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Originally Posted by Watson

Then what? Tanak obviously cruised to victory. If Latvala had been closer he'd have driven faster.

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What I meant was if now after the rally has ended, they would have given him the time back.

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Originally Posted by dimviii

what about are you reffering Pluto?

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Originally Kopecký was given notional time 30 seconds better than Camilli while they were separated by 4 seconds in the leaderboard (and strangely they gave such time only to Kopecký, other WRC2 drivers were given same time as Camilli). After that they changed it but still Kopecký was given 6 seconds better time which was still enough to win the rally. And now finally they changed it again so that Camilli won like he deserved.

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Originally Posted by Eli

What I meant was if now after the rally has ended, they would have given him the time back.

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I'm pretty sure that final decision has to be made before the beginning of a new day.

Well the WRC notional times were also random. Breen got a time that is exactly the same as first pass even though he never started the stage. Everyone else got Sordo's time (slowest one).

#TiTanak

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Perfect win for tanak !!!! Ogier minimised his loses at the power stage... nice championship overall.

Why Evans retired after last stage?

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Originally Posted by KKS

Why Evans retired after last stage?

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Teams retire some cars when the result is pointless. It allows them to fix with the car I would believe, or something like that.

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thank you guys here and thanks Ott ja Martin. what a day. i will never forget this. amazing.

Aitäh!

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Terviseks!

BTW: Lappi made the most stage wins in this rally, a total of six. Sordo made four and Tänak only three.

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Teams retire some cars when the result is pointless. It allows them to fix with the car I would believe, or something like that.

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It allows them to save sealed spare parts to the next rally.

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It allows them to save sealed spare parts to the next rally.

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Ah, had the feeling it was something like that.

I belieave Ott could go on a winning streak from here, winning poland and finland aswell.

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Originally Posted by Mirek

Originally Kopecký was given notional time 30 seconds better than Camilli while they were separated by 4 seconds in the leaderboard (and strangely they gave such time only to Kopecký, other WRC2 drivers were given same time as Camilli). After that they changed it but still Kopecký was given 6 seconds better time which was still enough to win the rally. And now finally they changed it again so that Camilli won like he deserved.

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I understand that,i was talking about this one

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Originally Posted by PLuto

Another stupid decision by stewards yesterday - foreign help doesnt meen exclusion, but time penalty 60 minutes...

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which is the crew that had foreign help?

Gerard Quinn‏*@WRCgerardquinn
Congratulations @OttTanak WINNER #RallySardinia. I remember your first seat fitting in a Ford Fiesta WRC Good things come to those who wait!

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nice video
https://youtu.be/h_o4tUxkSnY

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which is the crew that had foreign help?

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Aha, crew No.87, Italians with R5.