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Becs saying the harsh language apologizing is a legal thing
Broadcast law for (subscription) web stream?Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
The apologising drives me nuts. What kind of people live in UK that get offended when somebody else says "shit"? But whatever, atleast they are still allowed to say it.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
The media zone segments were SO much better earlier in the season. Molly and Julian running around all those people, pushing other journos out of the way to get a LIVE comment from a driver, it was actually engaging to watch. It felt real! Now it's all back to just being pre-recorded interviews with drivers giving their pre-packaged answers. They should stop showing that (LIVE) watermark during the media zone interviews. It's false advertising.
And it's also ruining the studio segments! Instead of the interesting, lively discussion we used to get, now we get the following:
Bloore: "OK that was Molly with a boring interview of Hayden Paddon. What do you think of Hayden's day today, Julian?"
Porter: "Well, it's like that saying, you know? It's all just kinda--"
Bloore: "Indeed, indeed. OK, now here's a boring interview of Teemu Suninen, he's with Molly."
Repeat 12x.
Why are they dealing with the enormous complexity and cost of putting together a live broadcast if all they're doing is this lame pre-recorded stuff that should be part of the daily highlights video? There's no spontaneity, no joy in this show lately. It feels like they're all just doing math homework and their teacher is a dull German man.
You know, the Red Bull TV coverage is actually a highlights program, but it feels raw, and way more energetic and immediate than All Live does lately. Whoever produces that show should be brought in as a consultant for this one. This year was okay, but next year needs to be good, or I'm gonna stop paying.
We had Becs reaching for drivers in Media Zone in Catalunya. Haven’t watched them in Australia though
Now they take care about polite and good stuff around a brand, and in LIVE commentary could be anything that can hurt them. That's why they start to put pre-recorded, edited, without any truth that can hurt comments.
All live worths every cent it costs, but they should provide a ‘no comment’ option. With all the onboard, heli and even fixed cameras we now can get a perfect sense of the drivers speed flow but sadly we never fully enjoy it because Becs & Company simply can’t be quiet for more than 15s!
It’d be great if somehow they realize that pure sound images also work on a sports TV show and there’s no need to be talking all the time, like as in the Radio.
They simply can't do that. That germans who make a web player didn't do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
And all action shoot in 50fps and we watch only in 25fps with a poorest bitrate of 2000kbps. It would be perfect in 2010, but not in 2018
Couldn't agree more !Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
Tell them in the survey.
http://news.wrcplus.com/r/jiyjxQi1390ms198.html
I must say the last day of coverage was much improved. Just the right mix of insightful commentary and off-the-cuff badinage. The Media Zone interviews were clearly live, which was great to see. The Becs interview of Ogier and then Malcolm was TV magic.
Why do you guys think that onboards without any kind of commentary would be interesting? I'm a pretty hardcore fan and even I can't see myself watching that for more than five minutes before tuning out.
For one thing, with the OBs you could hear the pacenotes properly.
You could also hear the car, especially on the TV live stages with more stage cameras.
I'd happily follow the screen graphics for the info and splits... and better without someone telling you stuff you already know.
But its only an option we want... not to be made compulsory.
When watching the stages during the last round, I started thinking that Becs does not fit the TV commentator role at all. There's a big difference between a radio and TV commentator. The latter does not have to describe you what you already see.
With onboards, I think if they'd do like 30 second breaks from time to time, it would be enough. If it is longer, then you might start to think that they've gone out for lunch or sth.
I could watch "Onboard action" section in WRC+ for hours, but unfortunately the video quality in all uploaded material is so poor that sometimes you can't separate road from woods. Also the differences in engine sound vs. co-driver volume are changing based to rally, car, etc and there is no possibility to balance those separately. Luckily there is sometimes some onboards with ok quality that you can use to compare pacenotes between drivers.
Other nice feature is the Specials sub-section under "Highlights" section that includes some documents and older material but could be more, e.g. old yearly reviews starting from 80's. Now waiting for End of season gala 2018 video - always nice to see drivers and other important rally persons on more relaxed party feeling!
Anyone saw the promocode of Black Friday?
Valid till when?
If used, will be one year starting now or after the current one ends?
what a promocode?
BLACK FRIDAY SALE!
20% OFF ON THE WRC+ ALL LIVE ANNUAL SUBSCRIPTION
LIMITED TIME ONLY. You can save 20% off on the WRC+ ALL LIVE annual subscription and enjoy all 2019 events LIVE & on-demand, expert analysis, behind the scenes, all highlights & all driver's onboard videos of every stage @ wrcplus.com.
Use promo code:
BLACKFRIDAY18
I can’t use it to renew :(
Mine is still running for free anyway... I'll see how long it lasts. ;)
Thanks for the heads up on this! Luckily my monthly subscription expired Tuesday just gone, I didn't renew, awaiting a free month promo code before Monte from the Autosport Show. Don't have to rely on that now, this is the same cost as the 8 months I'd have paid otherwise, plus you get the off season for free. I somewhat regret ploughing through most of the 'specials' documentaries on Tuesday now though!Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
I wonder whether they'll upload more stuff on WRC+ over the off season? Going by what BT Sport broadcast in the UK a couple of years ago, I'm sure they've got some more shows in their archives. There's at least a 'Greatest Rallies: Rally GB' 1 hour documentary and season review shows for every season from 2001 onwards ('01 & '02 are 30 minutes, the rest 1 hour iirc). It's a big shame that Motorsport Network got the rights to the Duke Video archive, as they'd got a lot of WRC stuff that'd be ideal for WRC+...
Julian Porter provides a lot of detail on what is involved to produce WRC+ All Live coverage in the latest Absolute Rally Podcast. The logistics and number of people involved are staggering https://www.podbean.com/media/share/pb-89dpi-9ffa3c
Dear WRC+ user,
Thanks for your request and your interest in WRC+.
Please kindly be informed that unfortunately you can only use this promo if you don’t have an
active subscription.
Apologies for any inconveniences caused.
Yep, I received same message from support. I'm pretty frustrated. We've sent few messages with the support. They didn't mention anywhere at promo email that it can't be used with active subscription.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
This is from latest message:
"It is thanks to your honest feedback and opinions that we can ensure the best possible service is provided.
We have forwarded your email to the necessary departments and the issue will be discussed"
Just goes to show what an immense undertaking it is to provide the All Live service. Personally I think it has been fantastic, and I have found it an absolute bargain really, ok there have been a couple of frustrations along the way, but overall brilliant.Quote:
Originally Posted by KiwiWRCfan
I canceled my subscription to WRC+ all live. Will probably take one again just before Monte Carlo. It's been the same every year, no promos for people who were already subscribed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Just use another email address!Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Can at least two persons watch wrc+ at same time in the same account?
The time and effort to bring us All Live is insane so you should be a bit more appreciative for the product and price we're getting and not be so proud about dodging payments and things like that because it can suddenly be gone again if not supported properly by us.
The hours they put into it makes my 15-20 hours of planning for an event look tiny.
Lots of info at 6min in the podcast.
What other sport gets close to 325 hours of live broadcast, over 30 hours of highlights and about 580 hours of onboard in a year?
I can't think of any.
15 onboard camera kits at over a 100.000 pounds for one kit...
Totaly agree, i payed my subscribtion an was satisfied from what i got in return.Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
Seeying al stages live is such a revolution, also what rally needs to survive and grow in my opinion.
Value for money is more than right if you ask me!
I've paid in monthly sections and got two rallies for each subscription which is good value.Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
And I cancelled after Rally GB to wait for the next two-rally period but found I could still watch. Not dodging payment, just their incompetence.
Rallying is a rather small sport, and much more difficult to broadcast than events that happen in a fixed place. With that in mind, I find the price rather cheap. Of course there are plenty of sports that have more coverage, but most of them are more popular too.
Having an option to get every rally cheaper than the year subscription is pretty dumb from them though.
Did You wrote to them about this problem?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Not much of a discount anyway when paying per month is 10 euros cheaper.
You unsubscribe in the winter and in the summer when there's no rallies?Quote:
Originally Posted by gheeD
While I was happy to take them up on the offer, I'm not sure why they offer 20% off the full year in the first place, particularly just for Black Friday! I get the first month free code, as that draws people in, but this was just a gift. If they're happy with €71 though, I'm certainly happy with the amazing value offered at €71/£64.Quote:
Originally Posted by Googol
You brag about here all the time and you have the option to contact them and put it right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
It’s your dishonesty.
Not bragging just stating a fact. And I did contact them to ask to cancel so where am I dishonest ?Quote:
Originally Posted by T16
They told me to do it via google play. I cancelled through google play. That's all I need to do. They knew I was cancelling so its their fault its not been cancelled on the website.
WRC+ <support@service-plus.wrc.com>
Wed, 10 Oct, 19:35
to me
Dear WRC+ user,
Thanks for your request and your interest in WRC+.
If you have subscribed to WRC+ via Google Play Store, we are not able to cancel your subscription. For doing so, please do the following:
Open the Google Play Store app.
Tap Menu Menu and then Account and then Subscriptions.
Find the WRC+ subscription.
Tap Cancel.
Yeah. If you only pay for months when there are rallies (most months would have 2 rallies per) it would be 7 months of subscription. Thats 10 euros cheaper than the black friday deal.
I'm such a geek that I often watch old onboards and highlights just for fun, so I wouldn't like to constantly cut the subscription, but I'm completely happy to pay this price for the service they offer.
I happily pay the price for WRC+. In the States, rally coverage is nil, so this is my lifeline. I love this service, and I believe that the WRC is on the leading edge of motorsports coverage with this. Love it, and I will pay whatever they charge. With no racing in the offseason, I love spending time watching inboard footage of the various stages to continue my learning process of this awesome sport.
Bragging when you’re doing you little ‘wink’ that you have done when going in about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC