ADAC Rallye Deutschland 2013

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Originally Posted by Kielder

I was trying to find it out on the GE too, just for curiosity. We reached the same conclusion :) . Obviously, it was impossible for them to return to the route at the same point where they went out, so they weren't punished. It looks like there is some kind of path there, which explains that the car didn't have many damages.

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shame there's no street-view, but this is the place. extremely lucky to find this path and no serious damage to car.

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Originally Posted by Leon

Good morning to all. could not follow the rally but just finish reading this thread. thanks for all the info. reading it is better than any report...
Some general thoughts about the drivers:
Happy for the once called wonderboy Sordo after gaining his first WRC win.
However I cannot explain why I remember the pictures of Puras sole WRC win in Corsica when I see him.
Hope this win is not his last as well as his last year as a WRC driver.

On the other hand congratulations to Neuville. I watch him live a couple of times, I enjoyed his style (in IRC Cyprus 2011 it was McRae style, crazy, spectacular drive) and I had big expectations of him but what he did at Citroen last year and at the beginning of this year with Ford, made me think that he will end up as Thiry – Duval – Loix……So I’m glad about his resurgence and I hope he becomes an Ogier thread. The WRC needs that. I quess his biggest “problem” is where to go next year.

About unguided missile Novikov only one comment…bring Giraudet back…

So Ogier can go off without pressure from Loeb… good for the WRC if this becomes a habit :)
Latvala. Fed up with him…. If only Paasonen/Mokkonen had the opportunities he is getting… (ok this is too personal :) )
Hirvonen. Again a good 2nd , point scorer driver waiting for others mistakes….
Ostberg: bring on 2014 asap
Kubica: really wondering what he can do on asphalt with a WRC
Evans: better than his father?
And some final thoughts/questions. Is Ford an easier car to drive than the DS3 or is it just the environment in the two teams that affects the psychology and thus the performance of the drivers?
What is the thing/things that Latvala - Novikov still missing to be more consistent and have more results – less crashes? Is it just psychology, concentration ability?
At the beginning of their WRC careers Ogier as well as Neuville were fast but erratic. What was the change that made them “turn the corner” with their performance? Different notes? Psychology?

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I agree on most of your points.

But - one small thought: How would you have described Neuville if he´d been stuck after the off on the last stage?

Just playing around.. ;)

http://i41.tinypic.com/2inqjk.jpg

Sordo not safe:

"Citroen World Rally team boss Yves Matton warned that victory in Germany might not be enough to secure Dani Sordo's future."

Citroen warns Dani Sordo future not secured by Rally Germany win - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com

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Originally Posted by noel157

Sordo not safe:

"Citroen World Rally team boss Yves Matton warned that victory in Germany might not be enough to secure Dani Sordo's future."

Citroen warns Dani Sordo future not secured by Rally Germany win - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com

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Of course not. If VW weren't out, he and Neuville would fight for podium only

same place with Novikovs exit


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhKw9...ature=youtu.be

different camera from Neuvills exit
http://fbcdn-video-a.akamaihd.net/hv...e6c7db6cf4069f

Sordos papa with Neuvilles papa,before the fight.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BSgvI_MIMAAJ9fY.jpg:large

Sordo arrives on the airport.

http://www.imgdumper.nl/uploads7/521...42e7-sordo.jpg

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Originally Posted by dimviii

Sordos papa with Neuvilles papa,before the fight.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BSgvI_MIMAAJ9fY.jpg:large

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Their sons, after the fight:

https://sphotos-a-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/h...07338307_n.jpg

Though the photo that sums up both Sordos' feelings is this one:

https://sphotos-b-mad.xx.fbcdn.net/h...70996611_n.jpg

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Originally Posted by EightGear

Sordo arrives on the airport.

http://www.imgdumper.nl/uploads7/521...42e7-sordo.jpg

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It's better to hear than to see how a long waiting comes to a happy ending...

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=653599061318951

My pictures from WRC Rally :

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photo...2013%20636.jpg

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photo...20j3%20076.jpg

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photo...2013%20316.jpg

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photo...20j3%20415.jpg

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photo...2013%20027.jpg

and more here : http://www.ewrc-results.com/search_p...driver=0&car=0

what a mess...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMd10zZsdKo&feature=youtube_gdata_player

It was a very enjoyable rally as such but the sad event at Panzerplatte and the Dhrontal 2 accident cast a dark shadow on the rally.

From my point of view the safety was a huge problem this year. At times marshals just didn't seem to give a sh%t. On Blankenheim there was one guy filming next to the media triangle inside a right hairpin. Not to mention the marshals car was parked pretty much at the place where you'd end if you missed the braking. On Veldenz 1 there was one safety who didn't allow me to be on a short straight between to hairpins and a bit further into the stage there was a place where people were drinking wine and standing max 10m from the line the cars took through the hairpin. And on Panzer 1 one of the guys with the blue tabards suggest the yellow ones that spectators are in a wrong place. The guys basically answered him "eh.." and continued to watch the rally from their chairs.

Of course there were good marshals also.

But the really annoying thing was the lack of proper rally radio. Pretty much next to none info shared on the rally. E.g. we heard that Panzer 2 is canceled from the safety's when they realized we were discussing which was the best viewing spot there. And then we ended up telling others there that the stage won't be run. And some short news flashes in English would be great also, since everyone who attends the rally doesn't speak German 100%.

Other than the safety issues and the lack of info, I enjoyed the rally a lot. And the steep hillsides of Mosel was nice training (Especially the Z7 on Veldenz stage).

Highlights WRC Rally Germany 2013 - Bunnings Video

includes big jumps, Keith Cronin´s scary moment, Simone Campedelli crash & small off Al Attiyah

http://youtu.be/fCfHSc-Rm-Y

My complete album online on rally-image.be: ADAC Rallye Deutschland (Tom Buyse) - rally-image.be

http://rally-image.be/foto/0380/images/004.jpg

http://rally-image.be/foto/0380/images/079.jpg

http://rally-image.be/foto/0380/images/029.jpg

http://rally-image.be/foto/0380/images/025.jpg

http://rally-image.be/foto/0380/images/068.jpg

Tom some photos are excellent! give the ''speed'' perfect!

Very enjoyable trip to Rallye Deutschland (but not perfect, also very sobering following Panzerplatte news). Full reflections in a day or so.

Welcome to see our gallery of ADAC Rallye Deustchland 2013. We will add more WRC photos within few days... now mostly Moselland pictures of historic, service photos etc.
Tango Team

Sad news we got on Saturday and Sunday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY4ZQ6fpabc
Czech Rally Videos on Facebook

Best of Thierry Neuville & Nicolas Gilsoul:

http://youtu.be/qhHXUYOZjQM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=P_swZcvEqGc

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...27374629_o.jpghttp://horizonrallye.files.wordpress....jpg?w=1000&h=http://imageshack.us/a/img823/8381/pxwr.jpg

http://rallyeshots00.livehost.fr/Joo...85c12b9d03.jpghttp://rallyeshots00.livehost.fr/Joo...6ee8833b38.jpg

http://rallyeshots00.livehost.fr/Joo...d173fc599a.jpghttp://rallyeshots00.livehost.fr/Joo...253790c71d.jpg

Very nice:
http://rally-image.be/foto/0380/images/040.jpg

http://www.facebook.com/video/embed?...12724375560553

Nice corner :D

Funny BTW, on Twitter everybody is referring to the @WRCGermany account as an official one.
Its not, it's an account of some Dutch guy who just uses it mainly to spam his own videos :)

look at the man with the blue shirt....
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photo...-2013-0131.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photo...-2013-0106.jpghttp://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photo...-2013-1387.jpghttp://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photo...-2013-1400.jpg

These are great! You got an awesome view! The back of the Qatar looks like its been through some damage :P

I thought this event was really fantastic. Definitely more eventful that previous events. Maybe it's because Ogier had to retire. But I really thought everyone was fighting hard for the podium. It was great to See Neuville up there and I'm really happy for Sordo! One of my favourite events this year!

Dani Sordo takes his 1st WRC victory:

http://youtu.be/4oJdUzMoBI0

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Originally Posted by dimviii

look at the man with the Blue Shirt

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watch your post 1173 and 1174, these are the photos of the man with the blue shirt. :eek:

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Originally Posted by Blitzerflitzer

watch your post 1173 and 1174, these are the photos of the man with the blue shirt. :eek:

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yes probably must be him.

No, those photos were clearly taken ON the wall. ;) The guy with the blue shirt was next to some stairs so he had a place to "hide" in case of an accident. But he didn't have the right reflex for it anyway... Also forcing all people standing behind him to take more dangerous positions if they want to see something...

Haha! :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP7o...embedded#t=119

From 1.40 onwards..

Neuville: Ah, juste la dernière droite. Le rest (vous) pourrez à fond. (Oh, just the last right. The rest you can go flat.)
Ogier: Ah oui. Mais il y a une droite, je ne sais pas. (Yes. But there's one right, I don't know.)
Neuville: Si si. Moi, je freine pas. (Sure. But me, I don't brake.)

Hope they can have lots of fights.

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Originally Posted by Integrale

Haha! :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP7o...embedded#t=119

From 1.40 onwards..

Neuville: Ah, juste la dernière droite. Le rest (vous) pourrez à fond. (Oh, just the last right. The rest you can go flat.)
Ogier: Ah oui. Mais il y a une droite, je ne sais pas. (Yes. But there's one right, I don't know.)
Neuville: Si si. Moi, je freine pas. (Sure. But me, I don't brake.)

Hope they can have lots of fights.

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Great capture! The question is: is it a mind game, or does it actually pass flat out :p

a few of my pics :

http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/5984/g364.jpg
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/8391/qxd.jpg
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/4579/sbi0.jpg
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/7783/fpnr.jpg
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/7993/86j6.jpg

Still collecting my thoughts and impressions (just takes too much time to catalogue and edit the images!! Still have to post my 35mm films to the lab)
Here is JML at Graftschaft on the Friday morning. Can someone post a sticky on how to upload multiple pics of a large size (tech-challenged dinosaur at work!!)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7394/9...5bf8b6e0_c.jpg

a little late but anyhow, here´s my short video from deutschland 2013, unfortunately only from friday:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncX_6fhiv2w