I know, but Novikov hasn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by jonkka
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I know, but Novikov hasn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by jonkka
I just noticed that Neuville very, very, very nearly rolled on the stage. Drove on two wheels for a long time :-) That was nice stunt:-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Hokkaido
Novikov is an M-Sport run driver so that a possibility, whereas Østberg is not an M-Sport driver (his car i run by Adapta) so that will be more difficult to giver him a team-order. Anyway Ford really needs to stop with all their teamorders. It's ruining the sport and they are not going to win anything anyway....Quote:
Originally Posted by GINE
Ogier always fast in Portugal even in a S2000.
Ford are the team order kings, but is it necessary since Ford don't want Petter to drive for the championship, even if it was possible?Quote:
Originally Posted by GINE
Anyhow, looks like Novikov and Ostberg will have more points after this event than Ford's No.1!
Latvala is ideal 3rd driver.
Latvala and Sordo seems to go ok on ss15 and in their right positions
Look at JML's 4th split...Quote:
Originally Posted by Viking
But Latvala suddenly lost 8" on Neuville(3rd split SS15) :confused:
Aside from last year, Ford's not known to have team orders. That's a completely different team that is known for this.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeD
Every so please do not be so of history.
maybe again fuel problems?Quote:
Originally Posted by jonkka
Ketomaa still running...
on conditions everyone would follow orders. yes
What is cool about fighting with someone whose engine doesn't work?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom206wrc
Pfff. You clearly haven't followed the sport for long ... or have a bad memory!Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach 2
Sordo has dust in the car-navigator window is gone
conditions? define please.Quote:
Originally Posted by GINE
edit lets say at this condition about Novikov,Ostberg
Morten Østberg (father of Mads and Adapta team principal) is a hard bargainer. Im sure he wont accept any team orders from Malcolm Wilson unless there are some extremely tempting and valuable businessrelated incentives in asking Mads to step down for Petter.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeD
Ostberg can do NZ for example.. Or try the factory engine for GB??? Is this enough for you?Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
As things stand at the moment...Petter has been the saving grace of the Ford team. Being an exellent 2nd driver and scoring good points on all rounds so far. Wilson has been very careful not to give Petter too much credit thou...always stating the Latvala+ the Ford was the fastest combination ect. How much longer can he countinue with that stunt? :)
Fords have had team orders sometimes, Citroens have always had No.2 driver who is never allowed to be in front of his teammate (except first half of previous year). Not a big difference huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeD
Now Araujo to hit problems :s
Edit: if it goes on like this, Neuville in top10 :p :
as i heard by radio araujo stop in the stage
am i right the only Hirvonen is without problems in this rally?
I remember at least one rally where cars from a different team than Ford, stopped for 20 minutes so that the first driver would get some World Cup points. When this ended with the driver won the championship with 1 point, I heard very little about team orders.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeD
don t think that he would exchange a podium(once a year? twice?) for 10 bhp or 3 kg of torque.At the end of story Mads knows better from everybody,that his ''problem'' isn t 10 bhp.Quote:
Originally Posted by GINE
About NZ maybe he could think.
Which in a way would be more disgraceful. Team orders between different teams. :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Iskald
Remember Touhino when he gave his place in Sweden for "factory" tyres. Stupid mistake.
It's going to cost M.W, a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iskald
We saw that many times. Fords with Stobart in Corsica for example or Citroën with Rautenbach in Poland.Quote:
Originally Posted by studiose
Really? Would you trust manufacturer, to which you have said no, to provide you with the best possible equipment?Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach 2
Admittedly, for Wilson customer cars are a business, but still...
Team orders have always occurred, it is you who think Ford is known for this. But all teams have been doing this. And Ford maybe less than others. It has actually cost them two driver championships.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
Petter in 4th now.
team orders have been played for decades.Trying to count, how many times a team gave orders, instead of another team, doesn t proof something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach 2
Try to accept that is part of the game.
It was Touhino's mistake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach 2
I accept that, there are some others who do not.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
But when the story gets turned on its head, then I react
I didn't know Prokop had an engine problem :mark:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
prokop has completely wear pneu
Last stage of leg running :cool:
Don´t they find Prokops engine problem or are they notable to fix it in service? isn´t it from first day on?