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11th February 2012, 09:28
A.F.F.

Good morning guys.

Glad to see both Latvala and Hirvonen still fighting :D
11th February 2012, 09:33
Goren

No splits for Breen SS12
11th February 2012, 09:35
tolis

In 1 hour, live coverage of SS Hagfors here: Svenska rallyt 11/2 11:40 - Motor | SVT Play
11th February 2012, 09:37
Rally Hokkaido

Breen's completed the stage - no probs
11th February 2012, 09:48
Brother John

Quote:

Originally Posted by tolis

In 1 hour, live coverage of SS Hagfors here: Svenska rallyt 11/2 11:40 - Motor | SVT Play

Probably no live coverage. First car will not start until 12:03 at Hagfors Sprint 1.
We get maybe other images of today to see during the broadcast of 20 minutes.
11th February 2012, 09:49
Goren

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rally Hokkaido

Breen's completed the stage - no probs

No worries
11th February 2012, 10:05
Rallyper

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother John

It's a joke, You know what I mean miksu.

Tanak is from Estonia...isn´t he? ;)
11th February 2012, 10:13
A FONDO

That Tidemand , I thought he's yeat another slow son but looks quite fast and consistent. And Paddon is making very good debut. Very interesting battle in class 2 :) But McRae is a real shame as expected.
11th February 2012, 10:17
Doon

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Originally Posted by SlowSon

did anybody record motorstv's day1 preview ?

edit: I found em! 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNB4pWi9jQw ; 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf3vp6k-QrE

Just watching it, and Colin Clark called Karlstad SSS, the Carlsberg Super Stage.....ha ha if Carlsberg did Rallying! Carlsberg is probably the worlds worst lager so it's version of the WRC would be in a bigger mess than currently if even possible.
11th February 2012, 10:20
A FONDO

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doon

Just watching it, and Colin Clark called Karlstad SSS, the Carlsberg Super Stage.....ha ha if Carlsberg did Rallying! Carlsberg is probably the worlds worst lager so it's version of the WRC would be in a bigger mess than currently if even possible.

I missed that, because after a couple of "HOUvonen" I just hit the mute. This idiot can make the hardest fans give up this sport!
11th February 2012, 10:22
Rallyper

Is Loeb only securing points already??
11th February 2012, 10:28
A.F.F.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rallyper

Is Loeb only securing points already??

Since yesterday ....
11th February 2012, 10:29
A.F.F.

Mikko has great second split .... full attack on Latvala !!!
11th February 2012, 10:32
MikeD

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rallyper

Is Loeb only securing points already??

Nope - not until he has HSolberg's 6th position. Then I think he will settle for the points...
11th February 2012, 10:33
Miika

..but again JML closing in the gap at the end of the stage it seems.
11th February 2012, 10:34
A.F.F.

Hirvonen takes this stage !!!
11th February 2012, 10:35
awake27

What is happening to Petter? Submitted to no.2 driver this day? Looks to me this year he will be what Hirvonen was to Gronholm some years back. What a pity. In order to get a factory car to bow down like Ronnie Peterson did in 1978 to Andretti and Chapman.
11th February 2012, 10:39
ridder

Quote:

Originally Posted by awake27

What is happening to Petter? Submitted to no.2 driver this day? Looks to me this year he will be what Hirvonen was to Gronholm some years back. What a pity. In order to get a factory car to bow down like Ronnie Peterson did in 1978 to Andretti and Chapman.

He actually signed as nr.2 driver. Wilson explicitly stated that if Petter is ahead of Latvala and there's no driver between them he has to let him ahead.
Anyway in the past few years, Latvala and Hirvonen have been clearly fastest in Sweden, not even Loeb could beat them. This year the story seems to continue.

He should be able to beat Østberg, though Sweden has been the best rally of the year for Mads in the last years.
11th February 2012, 10:45
Iskald

Ladycup champ is still hunting for Ogier. Sliced more than half the lead on this one. Go, Andreas!
11th February 2012, 10:46
awake27

Ok no.2 to Latvala got it, but when he is behind he has to drive like a granny like Hirvonen in 06-07? He started the day just 2 secs off to 2nd place damn it.
11th February 2012, 10:47
sollitt

Quote:

Originally Posted by awake27

... like Ronnie Peterson did in 1978 to Andretti and Chapman.

Hmmm, Ronnie Peterson, probably the most talented driver ever to steer a Formula 1 car. And robbed of just reward by team orders as you say.
But that's a discussion for another forum.
Petter is not in Petersons league.
11th February 2012, 10:49
miksu

He probably has to secure podium and drive safely if JM or Mikko crash out, and it might happen. Mads is closing though...
11th February 2012, 10:56
Langdale Forest

Quote:

Originally Posted by ridder

He actually signed as nr.2 driver. Wilson explicitly stated that if Petter is ahead of Latvala and there's no driver between them he has to let him ahead.

What if Petter is ahead of Latvala in the championship, it would be stupid to swap positions then?
11th February 2012, 11:02
ridder

Quote:

Originally Posted by sollitt

Hmmm, Ronnie Peterson, probably the most talented driver ever to steer a Formula 1 car. And robbed of just reward by team orders as you say.
But that's a discussion for another forum.
Petter is not in Petersons league.

I guess not....
Peterson: 2nd in championship 2 times, 3rd once.
Solberg: 1st in championship once, 2nd 3 times, 3rd once.

Peterson was for some years fastest by raw speed, well Solberg was that as well in 2004. Peterson was hampered by the team, Solberg certainly was hampered by the subaru from 2005 on.

All in all, it's very hard to compare, but what can be compared certainly doesn't give background for talks about different league.
11th February 2012, 11:11
Mirek

Quote:

Originally Posted by SubaruNorway

My video from day 1 :)
Swedish Rally Day 1 2012 on Vimeo

Mega place the last one! :)
11th February 2012, 11:12
Mirek

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iskald

Ladycup champ is still hunting for Ogier. Sliced more than half the lead on this one. Go, Andreas!

Ogier had a puncture now. But of course it's part of the game like spin of Andreas yesterday.
11th February 2012, 11:14
Mirek

Did someone notice that DMack (Aasen) is doing actually much better today than yesterday?
11th February 2012, 11:16
Viking

I'm afraid we will see more punctures this afternoon...
11th February 2012, 11:16
N.O.T

I think Loeb can still catch Novikov....

Lets hope Hirvonen doesn't give up yet...

Ogier seems to control the ladycup champion...
11th February 2012, 11:29
Gard

Is Ogier already starting a big rivalry with his team mate? This was the reason he had to leave Citroen. So now he starts to f... up his VW-deal.

Looks like all his focus is on Mikkelsen. Would Ogier ever be able to contribute, so the pair of them will do their best. Even for a #1 driver, you have to be a team player and do what's best for the team as a whole. Staring to wonder if his ego is too big.
11th February 2012, 11:44
N.O.T

LOL...

Team-mate ??? when did VW offered the ladycup champ a contract ??

Also what ogier must do ? let mikkelsen pass him to prove his good manners ??

LOL or to put in in the proper context...

LooooooooooooooL
11th February 2012, 11:45
N.O.T

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gard

Is Ogier already starting a big rivalry with his team mate? This was the reason he had to leave Citroen. So now he starts to f... up his VW-deal.

also Ogier was second fiddle in citroen...in VW he is the boss so if someone gets the boot its going to be the second driver...not Ogier...same like Loeb.

LooooooooooooL
11th February 2012, 11:48
Brother John

Citroen's tactics or from S. Loeb on SS14 Hagfors Sprint 1? or maybe Latvala here makes a mistake with just looking at the split times of Hirvonen?
11th February 2012, 11:50
wildboar

First ever stage win for Tanak.
11th February 2012, 11:52
Francis44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gard

Is Ogier already starting a big rivalry with his team mate? This was the reason he had to leave Citroen. So now he starts to f... up his VW-deal.

Looks like all his focus is on Mikkelsen. Would Ogier ever be able to contribute, so the pair of them will do their best. Even for a #1 driver, you have to be a team player and do what's best for the team as a whole. Staring to wonder if his ego is too big.

Relax.... Mikkelsen still has a lot to improve. This is the rally where he's likely to do better, he's a specialist on this surface after all, like Ogier was in Monte Carlo.

If Mikkelsen was in MC he'd be way off Ogier.
11th February 2012, 11:52
Tom206wrc

Can't wait for this afternoon second loop of stages :cool:
Go Mikko !!! :bounce:
11th February 2012, 11:54
Viking

Quote:

Originally Posted by N.O.T

LOL...

Team-mate ??? when did VW offered the ladycup champ a contract ??

;)
11th February 2012, 11:54
Elkoorps

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom206wrc

Can't wait for this afternoon second loop of stages :cool:
Go Mikko !!! :bounce:

I don't know who to support out of the Fins, I know Miko probably has a better chance than JML at beating Loeb overall and he has more points than JML already, but JML is such a likable guy because of his attitude and his pure speed, and plus I much prefer ford over Citroen :rolleyes:
11th February 2012, 11:55
A.F.F.

I'm very happy about two things so far. Mikko has found his killer attitude.. to be honest, Sweden is among two rallies Hirvonen really has it. But he is really pushing and like what I see.

And Latvala has not lost his self confidence which helps him be fast but also consistent. I hope both gentlemen find the finishline without superrally and we get white and blue top two podium for a loooong time :D
11th February 2012, 12:00
Viking

First loop

Latvala
Hirvonen +1.8
Østberg +14.8
Solberg P +21.3
Novikov +34.3
Loeb +34.6

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