do you seriously belive that any weapons will be found on those ships? speeding and murdering a few civilians is about the same difference like consentration camp and holiday on the beach.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rani
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do you seriously belive that any weapons will be found on those ships? speeding and murdering a few civilians is about the same difference like consentration camp and holiday on the beach.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rani
I believe that if that ship was to enter Gaza, ships that would follow it would no doubt be carrying weapons. Hamas is in a big problem now since Egypt is building an underground wall to stop weapons being smuggled from Sinai. The only option for them to smuggle weapons inside is by sea now. Murdering civilians and protecting yourself against a lynch is about the same difference between lying and telling the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
move israel to north dakota
problems solved
really good idea, but check first that there is no indian reservates near by, because the israelis would start build settlements there very soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roamy
LOL. When I was driving behind Mark it was all below the speedlimit :rotflmao:
As for being caught @ 20 over the limit. Have you ever sped in your life? Thought so!
The difference between me and your country is that I don't pretend to be special and am prepared to accept the consequences. If ever I've been caught speeding I've admitted to doing the wrong thing. That's something Israel has NEVER done.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/10199480.stm
Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu called the incident "murder committed by a state" and said Israel had "lost all legitimacy".
The Turkish Foreign Minister is probably right on this one. Considering that the flotilla originally came from Northern Cyprus and not Turkey, I am wondering exactly what was in those ships.
"Northern Cyprus" itself isn't exactly the most legitimate of states.
If in fact the flotilla was purely humanitarian in nature, then this was essentially an act of state terrorism by Israel, if if wasn't then perhaps there's an element of justification for it.
The problem is that the destination of Gaza is controlled by Hamas. Hamas has in as many words as one of its objectives, the destruction of Israel.
http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/880818a.htm
On the Destruction of Israel:
"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it."
(Preamble)
The poor people who suffer through all of this are the people of Gaza themselves. I'm sure that a great deal of them are jack of both Israel and Hamas and would rather that everything just stop and they can get on with their lives.
All the evidence you need of previous acts.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Rani
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...072500260.html
JERUSALEM, July 25 -- An Israeli airstrike hit a United Nations post in southern Lebanon late Tuesday, killing four international observers
Rani will probably come back and say that the ships were told that this was going to happen, there fore it legitimises it.
That after all was his comment in a previous thread on the King David Hotel bombing by the zionist terrorist group Irgun........
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing
I'm just a common American use to our countrys values. I feel as though we could get by better without trade with any other nation. Lets go back to If a person wants something from another country let that person pay the taxes and forget All this crap about we owe you and our soldiers should be put in harms way because you can't defend yourself. See if the bad guys tear up the east and then we fight one country and not several small controversies and our own wars at the same time.I don't mean to upset our allies or throw them to the wolves.A song comes to mind "If you leave me now"- I don't want to have to feel thjis way.
I persoally feel we've helped too many for too long and its time we put the US frist and worried about our future.
I'm honestly saddened to be saying these things but its about time we were more concerned and careful of what we are getting ourselfs into.
I'm not just to refering to the east beither. NAFTA and the mexican drug wars been going on for 30 some years and we have always been fighting a losing war alone. Who comes to our aid.
I'm not triing to be off subject and not irate, just fed up and tired of the US watching our backs in someplace we really don't need to be in.
I suppose that is one way to consider international law.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
What was your point?
Wow then we could move N. Dakota to where Israel is and keep a much closer watch a deal much quicker with the muslim radicals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roamy
Good idea.