Ferrari/McLaren Espionage Story [merged]

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Originally Posted by Flat.tyres

did I suggest they would?????????

If you cannot be bothered to read my posts then dont bother to respond either.

I have said that I find the accusation that Ferrari are in some way trying to fit Nigel up as incredible but that I will also wait until the full facts are out.

If anything, you are the one suggesting that Ferrari would do him in before it became public and starting legal proceedings.

all I said was that I find it incredible that Ferrari would be involved in something like this the same way as I would find it incredible that McLaren would. your the one saying your not sure that Nigel is in danger from Ferrari.

Are you some sort of Ferrari hater :p :

get the chip off your shoulder and actually read what people write otherwise you look stupid.

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Don't twist it, you implied that Stepney was right to flee because of the danger. Or you suggest that you don't even understand what you write? At least that's what seems to be the case.

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The court hearing into the spy scandal surrounding Ferrari and McLaren chief designer Mike Coughlan has been adjourned until tomorrow following a preliminary hearing in London's High Court today.

But despite reaching no firm conclusions this morning, the hearing did at least confirm some of the facts in the case.

Ferrari's action is being taken against Coughlan and his wife Trudy Coughlan, who is now alleged to have taken the 780-page Ferrari document at the centre of the controversy to a photocopying shop near Woking to be reproduced.

It was a staff member from the photocopying shop who tipped off Ferrari about the matter when they saw that the documents were confidential and belonged to the Maranello team.

The hearing also confirmed that McLaren managing director Jonathan Neale was aware that Coughlan had the documents.

However, there was no definitive answer on whether Neale was told about the situation before Ferrari's legal action against the Coughlan's began or after.

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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/60690

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Originally Posted by ioan

Don't twist it, you implied that Stepney was right to flee because of the danger. Or you suggest that you don't even understand what you write? At least that's what seems to be the case.

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Neither Flat.tyres nor Stepney said anything about Ferrari being threatening, perhaps you should stop trying to read between the lines so much. ;)
As Tamburello said, there are enough loonies in Italy without the team being involved.

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Originally Posted by janneppi

Neither Flat.tyres nor Stepney said anything about Ferrari being threatening, perhaps you should stop trying to read between the lines so much. ;)
As Tamburello said, there are enough loonies in Italy without the team being involved.

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Now wait a minute - the Pope ain't gonna like that!!

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Originally Posted by ioan

Don't twist it, you implied that Stepney was right to flee because of the danger. Or you suggest that you don't even understand what you write? At least that's what seems to be the case.

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that is a disgracefull outright LIE and I demand you substantiate it or admit your lying.

I have never made any statement pertaining to what you accuse me of. I have always said that the allergations seem incredible. If you dont understand the word, look it up FFS. Here for the hard of understanding are a few definitions.

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so extraordinary as to seem impossible
not credible; hard to believe; unbelievable
farfetched, astonishing, preposterous
So implausible as to elicit disbelief: gave an incredible explanation of the cause of the accident.
incredible
1412, from L. incredibilis "that cannot be believed," from in- "not" + credibilis "worthy of belief" (see credit). Incredulity "disbelieving frame of mind" first attested 1430; incredulous "unbelieving" is from 1579.

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source is http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/incredible

so ioan, I would be appeased if you retract the statement and issue a apology. :(

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Originally Posted by Flat.tyres

that is a disgracefull outright LIE and I demand you substantiate it or admit your lying.

I have never made any statement pertaining to what you accuse me of. I have always said that the allergations seem incredible. If you dont understand the word, look it up FFS. Here for the hard of understanding are a few definitions.



source is http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/incredible

so ioan, I would be appeased if you retract the statement and issue a apology. :(

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I hope you are joking there, otherwise you've got some problem.

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Originally Posted by Valve Bounce

Hey!! I'm trying my best with the crazy rumours - I even saw Elvis involved. What more can I do :(

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LOL!

I know. I am not trying to follow the story until somebody is or is not raked over the coals....

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Originally Posted by ioan

I hope you are joking there, otherwise you've got some problem.

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no, im not joking and neither were you with your post. why not admit you made it up and were talking rubbish?

you cant go around lying on a forum and not get picked up on it.

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Originally Posted by Flat.tyres

no, im not joking and neither were you with your post. why not admit you made it up and were talking rubbish?

you cant go around lying on a forum and not get picked up on it.

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So who wrote this???

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Originally Posted by Flat.tyres

A senior (just about former) member of the Ferrari team is saying he is being stalked and fears for his safety. A few weeks ago, you would have accused us of being Ferrari haters if we dared question his integrity?

neither of us know the validity to this story but if it turns out that he is innocent of these accusations, you have to admit it adds weight to what he is saying, doesnt it?

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You could simply stick to your own words.

Now, if you don't mind I have nothing more to add to our discussion about this subject. See you in another thread.

BTW here's what happened to day in court:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/60695