Should f1 run coupes?

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Originally Posted by Daniel

I'm sorry but that's a disappointing answer coming from yourself and Ben, two people on here who I think are quite intelligent.

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I had presumed you had started this thread with your tongue firmly in your cheek but it seems not.

Racing is inherently dangerous, you know that. Young testosterone loaded men duking it out on track with spectators watching or racing the clock inches from both trees and crowds, its inherently unsafe given the energies involved.

There are open wheeled formulae and there are closed wheel formulae. Drivers, marshalls and spectators are utterly free choose to take part in either or neither.

Do them a favour and respect the fact that all three groups may actually have the intelligence and free will to weigh up the risks involved and balance that against the benefits they get from taking part.

If open wheeled racing is too dangerous for them then all drivers are free to sign up with Audi, Peugeot and the like and go GT racing. The fact that they don't is due to their own free will. I'm sure that having seen what happened to Massa or Perez they are more than aware of the risks involved, more than you are.

I am all for improving safety wherever possible but open wheel racing is called that for a reason. Cover up the wheels and you change the entire nature of the sport. If you really have an issue with risk in motorsport don't pussy around with small things like covering up wheels and the cockpit, have the balls to ban the thing altogether.

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Originally Posted by Dylan H

I had presumed you had started this thread with your tongue firmly in your cheek but it seems not.

Racing is inherently dangerous, you know that. Young testosterone loaded men duking it out on track with spectators watching or racing the clock inches from both trees and crowds, its inherently unsafe given the energies involved.

There are open wheeled formulae and there are closed wheel formulae. Drivers, marshalls and spectators are utterly free choose to take part in either or neither.

Do them a favour and respect the fact that all three groups may actually have the intelligence and free will to weigh up the risks involved and balance that against the benefits they get from taking part.

If open wheeled racing is too dangerous for them then all drivers are free to sign up with Audi, Peugeot and the like and go GT racing. The fact that they don't is due to their own free will. I'm sure that having seen what happened to Massa or Perez they are more than aware of the risks involved, more than you are.

I am all for improving safety wherever possible but open wheel racing is called that for a reason. Cover up the wheels and you change the entire nature of the sport. If you really have an issue with risk in motorsport don't pussy around with small things like covering up wheels and the cockpit, have the balls to ban the thing altogether.

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Fair comment. Whilst I feel that the wheels should be covered I do see that it's part of the challenge (a small part of me, but a big part to others) but I really don't see a reason to leave the cockpits uncovered.

I understand the motorsport is dangerous, but to me I don't feel that covering the cockpit would spoil the racing :)

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Originally Posted by Dylan H

There is only one way of reducing the risk properly.

Ban motorsport.

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Ban spectators?

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Originally Posted by wedge

Ban spectators?

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Holy sheet!

I hope F1 never goes closed wheel. It completely changes the form of racing and the skill level when the cars can bang together with often very little physical consequence.

It's sort of like suggesting motorcyle racing use outriggers so they can't fall over. Pointless IMO.

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Originally Posted by airshifter

I hope F1 never goes closed wheel. It completely changes the form of racing and the skill level when the cars can bang together with often very little physical consequence.

It's sort of like suggesting motorcyle racing use outriggers so they can't fall over. Pointless IMO.

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OK I can see the argument with regards to keeping it open wheel, personally it wouldn't bother me but I can see the point people are making. but I still don't understan the irrational hatred of roofs on cars?

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Originally Posted by Daniel

OK I can see the argument with regards to keeping it open wheel, personally it wouldn't bother me but I can see the point people are making. but I still don't understan the irrational hatred of roofs on cars?

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The audi r15 was open cockpit, but then with the regs changes in le mans for 2011 meaning they had to use smaller engines, they opted to use a tin top design for better aerodynamics...I wonder why this hasn't been used in F1?

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Originally Posted by tfp

The audi r15 was open cockpit, but then with the regs changes in le mans for 2011 meaning they had to use smaller engines, they opted to use a tin top design for better aerodynamics...I wonder why this hasn't been used in F1?

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Because the regs don't allow for it I guess. If they did put a roof on and covered the wheels up then the cars would be loads more fuel efficient and I suspect we wouldn't need this DRS crap anymore.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Because the regs don't allow for it I guess. If they did put a roof on and covered the wheels up then the cars would be loads more fuel efficient and I suspect we wouldn't need this DRS crap anymore.

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And we would also be able to merge F1 and sportscar racing.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Because the regs don't allow for it I guess. If they did put a roof on and covered the wheels up then the cars would be loads more fuel efficient and I suspect we wouldn't need this DRS crap anymore.

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I thought the FIA would have something to do with it:-)