Osama Bin Laden Is Dead

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Originally Posted by Eki

Don't make me laugh. The Americans helped the Soviet Union to fight Finland in WW2. It's thanks to the Finns and maybe the Germans, not the Americans, that we don't speak Russian.

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You're speaking English! :p

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Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow

You're speaking English! :p

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True.

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Originally Posted by DexDexter

People also forget the fact that Americans have bailed us out two times. Let's face it, without the Americans all Europeans from Finland to France would be speaking Russian.

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More likely we would be speaking german..... :devil:

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Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow

If he was still alive he would have sent a message by now to keep up Al Qaeda morale and make the US luck dumb.

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Talking about possibilities I wonder how US would look if he died a few years ago and it's reported he was killed now.

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

Good thing club Gitmo was kept open.

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Claims that the torture of detainees was directly responsible for the intelligence that tracked down Osama bin Laden are fanciful at best and cynically manipulative at worst.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...sama-bin-laden

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

Limbaugh just said deathers like you would pop-out of the wood work.

The Obama actually fulfilled a campaign probmise-- SHIZAM!

I guess his decision to not coddle the trash in Club Gitmo paid off- good for Obama and good for Bush, that chapter is closed.

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I made my comment with my tongue planted firmly in my cheek and even had a cheeky smiley on the end. Looks like that was wasted.

Gitmo eh?
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/54301.html
Sen. John McCain denounced “advanced interrogation” methods like waterboarding Wednesday amid a growing debate over its effectiveness reopened by the killing of Osama bin Laden.
“So far I know of no information that was obtained, that would have been useful, by ‘advanced interrogation.’ In fact, according to published reports … some of the key people who knew about this courrier denied it,”
“I stand on the side of the United States and by the Geneva conventions, of which we are signatories, which we were in violation of by waterboarding.”

You think that Gitmo paid off? How? If no useful information was obtained, then what purpose did it serve?

Then again you have stated previously that you don't think that there actually is such a thing as human rights, much less a right to dignity, so therefore I guess you're prepared to excuse what went on at Guantanamo.

Here's a little story of how things work , as told to me by Abby Hoffman after speaking with Jimmy Carter :
Carter said that from behind his back , an emmisary went to speak with the Ayatola about keeping the hostages in Iran until the election was over , to oust Jimmy as a lame duck .
His name was John Tower .
Ammunition was traded for the hostages the moment Reagan signed the paper to become President .
Ron was a hero .

And the man appointed to investigate a newly confused title for the scandal , called now "Iran/Contra affair" , was a guy named John , in "The Tower Commision" .
It was a "Here , John , go cover your tracks ." situation .


What this should tell you is that the US government is not at all controlled by the president , although you're supposed to think it is .

By the way , Abby was dead within six months , supposedly having committed suicide .
He looked pretty happy when I saw him .
A lot of people wanted to hear what he had to say .

And , you've probably never heard the story .


Too bad Twitter wasn't invented yet at the time .

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

What this should tell you is that the US government is not at all controlled by the president , although you're supposed to think it is .

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I don't think many people would be under the illusion that any government is controlled by its named head, owing to the influence wielded by such as the civil service, other members of government and so on.

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Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow

I think Obama has done the correct thing in not releasing pictures of Bin Laden with half his face blown off. Conspiracy theorists would just say that they are faked anyway.
If he was still alive he would have sent a message by now to keep up Al Qaeda morale and make the US luck dumb.

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On the grounds of common decency, I for one have no desire to see any such images. They would be revolting.

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Originally Posted by janvanvurpa

Don't dodge things by calling me vile and loathsome, you don't see me claiming I "served my country" by invading and indiscriminately murdering women and children by the hundreds. You claimed you "were there".

My career? You know nothing of "my career". Besides, obvious dodge is obvious, where is the proof you're even American, and that you ever were in the service of my country.?
And why should I apologize when you have insulted me and soiled my Country"s reputation by your claimed terrorist acts?

Even if you apologized to the people of Panama for invading their country just for a cheap ass salary you got---if you ever did---and apologized to the families of those killed and wounded and whose homes were destroyed because you were "just following orders", why should I apologize to you? Because I've shown what you claim you did to be a terrorist action, and illegal under American law?

Ha!

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I stand by my statement.
I would suggest you come to grips with it and govern your actions accordingly.