Your opinion on 'Drag Reduction System'

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Originally Posted by Dave B

How about that for a rule: use DRS if you're within a second of the car in front but you must release it the moment you draw level. Could that work?

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Dear God no, no, no.

DRS is too much of a gimmick as it is.

I was sceptical but inquisitive but now get rid of the DRS system altogether. The tyres are fine as it is but DRS exaggerates the speed and grip differential.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Thanks for that quite frankly nonsensical post. So basically it seems like DRS did sleep with your wife/girlfriend :mark:

You have fail dismally to actually prove that there is something inherently wrong with DRS, merely the way it was executed in Turkey.

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Tell me, what was nonsensical from my part? You're the one who keeps bringing up the nocturnal habits of the DRS.

You said cars in the past needed to be "stupidly quicker" to overtake. I disagreed with you on that because making cars "stupidly quicker" is what the DRS does. Cars were definitely able to overtake before the DRS.

Now the DRS does seem to be liked by the drivers but I suspect that it just makes their day at the office more fun. Ultimately they are still finishing in a predictable order. After two hours the cream will always rise to the top but would Webber have got past Alonso without the DRS?

There is no overtaking problem in F1 that I can see but the "one second" rule is the interesting innovation to come from the DRS. I can see that rule surviving and being the basis for some future developments but I can't see the DRS being on the cars next year.

The DRS zones should probably be dynamically adjusted by the stewards or, at a minimum, reduced automatically during the race i.e. the zone reduces by 5 metres per lap or similar. That may make the DRS less potent as the race progresses.

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Originally Posted by Whyzars

Tell me, what was nonsensical from my part? You're the one who keeps bringing up the nocturnal habits of the DRS.

You said cars in the past needed to be "stupidly quicker" to overtake. I disagreed with you on that because making cars "stupidly quicker" is what the DRS does. Cars were definitely able to overtake before the DRS.

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Of course cars were able to overtake before, but as I said.... they had to be stupidly quicker to stand a chance of getting past. So for instance you could have a Hamilton on fresh tyres behind a Trulli in an OK car on tyres which were a couple of laps old and your Hamilton had to more or less fry his tyres to give himself a chance of getting past someone who if he were in a Formula Ford race, would get passed far easier. The one second rule means that people aren't getting up behind other drivers just on the basis of DRS or anything.

What kind of sport DOESN'T want the cream to rise to the top? Essentially the way things were previously, the results weren't even decided by RACING, they were decided by drivers driving on their own on a track against the clock in qualifying. Sounds almost to me like rallying..... I LOVE rallying, but I don't want to see F1 cars doing it on a track.

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Originally Posted by Whyzars

The DRS zones should probably be dynamically adjusted by the stewards or, at a minimum, reduced automatically during the race i.e. the zone reduces by 5 metres per lap or similar. That may make the DRS less potent as the race progresses.

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See, this is why we need get rid of DRS. We have another crazy idea.

I have noticed that Seb is very good att using DRS.

Is that a reason?

Ilike DRS.

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Originally Posted by Mia 01

I have noticed that Seb is very good att using DRS.

Is that a reason?

Ilike DRS.

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In fairness he's rarely been in a position to use it - he's usually the one in front.

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Originally Posted by wedge

See, this is why we need get rid of DRS. We have another crazy idea.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

OMG we should dress Wedge up in a clown suit.

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See, this is why we need to get rid of Wedge. Daniel had a crazy idea.


Can anyone see the complete lack of logic in my statement? :mark: I call it the "butterfly flapping its wings in the jungles of Madagascar causes Rubin "hurricane" Carter to be wrongfully jailed in the USA" theory.

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Originally Posted by Sonic

^^^

So just to clarify, you are against DRS, but not some other form of 'artificial' engineering solution to permit the following vehicle an opportunity to pass?.

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Sure why not.

I've never seen the DRS as an engineering solution but I'm pretty sure there are engineering solutions to be had if the powers that be allow it.

I think that the "one second" rule is the best thing about the DRS and that could open up many opportunities for future development if they want to use it that way. Give teams a loose engineering brief for use in that "one second" window and see what they come up with. It could be very interesting.

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Originally Posted by Whyzars

Sure why not.

I've never seen the DRS as an engineering solution but I'm pretty sure there are engineering solutions to be had if the powers that be allow it.

I think that the "one second" rule is the best thing about the DRS and that could open up many opportunities for future development if they want to use it that way. Give teams a loose engineering brief for use in that "one second" window and see what they come up with. It could be very interesting.

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So again, no ideas, just an irrational dislike of DRS because of one race where it was too much of a factor.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

So again, no ideas, just an irrational dislike of DRS because of one race where it was too much of a factor.

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No, my opinion of the DRS has formed from every race this year equally. Each subsequent race provides further reinforcement.

Turkey for instance told me that they will likely get the zone wrong more often than they will get it right. It may be marginal but how do they truly expect to ever judge whether they got it right? Are journalists and commentators going to decide if the FIA had the zone right or wrong and on what basis will that be decided?

The potency of the DRS is affected by track conditions and pre-race decisions. There appears to be no provision for the stewards to remedy anything in the DRS once a race begins.

In each race the DRS has had issues. I haven't even touched on my concerns about the safety of the DRS.