Pirelli

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Originally Posted by Robinho

one thing i did notice over the German GP was Pirelli saying that the soft tyre was the very same soft they had at the start of the year and it was a combination of the cool conditions and the less abraisive track surface menaing the tyres lasted longer here, plus the fact the teams and drivers have adapted to set the cars up and drive to maximise the performance of the tyres for a longer period

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The soft tyres are fine in cool conditions, more vulnerable in warm conditions and wear out quicker.

I was surprised how well the mediums worked. A single step change is enough to provide workable alternate strategy. Teams' simulations are apparently saying 2-stopper are do-able.

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Originally Posted by wedge

The soft tyres are fine in cool conditions, more vulnerable in warm conditions and wear out quicker.

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IIRC, this was NOT the case in pre season testing....

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Originally Posted by ioan

Each to his own I guess.

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Well no, it's not a matter of opinion.

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

IIRC, this was NOT the case in pre season testing....

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Where and when? I think it was Barcelona where there was rain and then a cool, green conditions threw a curveball.

Australia was cool and the tyres were fine. Didn't see that many marbles mid race. Contrast that with Turkey and Spain - the former became a 4-stopper.

Also I seem to remember Alonso was taking it easy on his outlaps in Barcelona and Valencia because he didn't want to overheat the top layer and ruin the tyres for the rest of the stint - and Ferrari is supposed to be kinder to its tyres.

I am still enjoying the tyre aspect this season, and for me above the politics, advertising issues is that I find it interesting and fun.

However I would prefer a tyre war, as I think that adds a different element.

I loved the battle between Bridgestone and Michelin.

I know some will argue if another tyre manufacturer came in then Pirelli would get stuffed, but my comment on tyre war is a general one. Two tyre makers in F1 make for competative F1.

Pirelli looking at qualy tyres again. Qualifying tyres could return to Formula 1 next season - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com

Looks like Pirelli will ditch the hard compound, replace it with the current 'medium' with 'hard' and come up with a new medium compound.

Pirelli is set to stop using its hardest compound for the rest of the season - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com

Cue more conspiracy theories. Ioan, is Osama Bin Laden hiding in the same house as Elvis Presley and Bruce Lee?

Terrible, terrible idea. So F1 is still attempting to 'control' costs but specialist qually tires that get thrown away after a few laps are coming back?

Changing the hard compound I can see, as it almost appears to be too hard for the intended purposes, and is lasting longer than anticipated.

I'm not really sure how to feel about the qually tires. It is great knowing that all cars end up on the grid in more of less the order of capability that day, and not strategy. But that qually strategy has grown on me over this year, with the better drivers being able to conserve more soft tires for the race.

For now though, it simply appears to be an option thrown out for the teams and/or FIA to decide on. It's not a done deal unless they want to use them, which is probably the best way to introduce it.

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Originally Posted by I am evil Homer

Terrible, terrible idea. So F1 is still attempting to 'control' costs but specialist qually tires that get thrown away after a few laps are coming back?

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Tbh the whole idea about controlling costs with tyre regs is ridiculous. There are FAR bigger costs involved in F1 than tyres, tbh bringing back the old tyre regs would probably add very little in terms of costs.

Pirelli again changing something about their tyres in yet another attempt to save face? Who would have thought! :laugh:

Qualifying tyres? Well they need not bother much with the design, their current line up is as close as you can get to a qualifying tire! :rotflmao: