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Originally Posted by Daniel
Finland has seriously restricted speech.
seeing that you quote Wiki so much...btw Wiki - Eki ??? coincidence???Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lashkar-e-Toiba
"Their professed goal is not limited to challenging India's sovereignty over Jammu and Kashmir. They aims include establishing an Islamic state in South Asia and uniting all Muslim-majority regions in countries that surround Pakistan to raise jihad against all non-Muslim communities"
"Their professed goal is not limited to challenging India's sovereignty over Jammu and Kashmir. They aims include establishing an Islamic state in South Asia and uniting all Muslim-majority regions in countries that surround Pakistan to raise jihad against all non-Muslim communities"
You don't have to take it back. If Russia gave Karelia back to Finland, I'd say it is a bad idea to take it back. Either we'd have to relocate the Russians living there currently, which would be morally wrong if they don't want to leave or we should bring its people and infrastructure to the standards of those in Finland, which would be very expensive and would be morally wrong towards those who don't want to become Finnish citizens or residents of Finland. Maybe some sort of compromise between the two options could be possible to solve the moral problems, but it would still be expensive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollo
After having faced genocide and persecution? Sorry, but you have just invoked the Chewbacca Defence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...0chewbacca.jpg
You make it sound that they moved to a ready made paradise without any objections and worries. Reading this makes me think it would have been easier for them to stay in the postwar Germany:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel#...nd_first_years
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After 1945, Britain found itself in fierce conflict with the Jewish community, as the Haganah joined Irgun and Lehi in armed struggle against British rule.[65] At the same time, thousands of Jewish refugees from Europe sought shelter in Palestine and were turned away or rounded up and placed in detention camps by the British. In 1947, the British government withdrew from the Mandate of Palestine, stating it was unable to arrive at a solution acceptable to both Arabs and Jews.[66] The newly created United Nations approved the Partition Plan for Palestine (United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181) on November 29, 1947, which sought to divide the country into two states—one Arab and one Jewish. Jerusalem was to be designated an international city—a corpus separatum—administered by the UN.[67]
The Jewish community accepted the plan,[68] but the Arab League and Arab Higher Committee rejected it.[69] On December 1, 1947, the Arab Higher Committee proclaimed a three-day strike, and Arab bands began attacking Jewish targets.[70] Jews were initially on the defensive as civil war broke out, but they gradually moved onto the offensive.[71] The Palestinian Arab economy collapsed and 250,000 Palestinian-Arabs fled or were expelled.[72]
David Ben-Gurion proclaiming Israeli independence on May 14, 1948, below a portrait of Theodor Herzl
On May 14, 1948, the day before the expiration of the British Mandate, the Jewish Agency proclaimed independence, naming the country Israel.[73] The following day, the armies of five Arab countries—Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon and Iraq—attacked Israel, launching the 1948 Arab–Israeli War;[74] Saudi Arabia sent a military contingent to operate under Egyptian command; Yemen declared war but did not take military action.[75] After a year of fighting, a ceasefire was declared and temporary borders, known as the Green Line, were established.[76] Jordan annexed what became known as the West Bank and East Jerusalem, and Egypt took control of the Gaza Strip. Meanwhile, Israel was accepted as a member of the United Nations by majority vote on May 11, 1949.[77] According to UN estimates, 711,000 Arabs, or about 80% of the initial Arab population of the area that became Israel, were expelled or fled the country during the conflict.[78] The fate of these Palestinian refugees remains a major point of contention in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.[79][80]
In the early years of the state, the Labor Zionist movement led by Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion dominated Israeli politics.[81][82] These years were marked by an influx of Holocaust survivors and Jews from Arab lands, many of whom faced persecution in their original countries.[83] Consequently, the population of Israel rose from 800,000 to two million between 1948 and 1958.[84] Most arrived as refugees with no possessions and were housed in temporary camps known as ma'abarot; by 1952, over 200,000 immigrants were living in these tent cities.[85] The need to solve the crisis led Ben-Gurion to sign a reparations agreement with West Germany that triggered mass protests by Jews angered at the idea of Israel accepting financial compensation from Germany for the Holocaust.[86]
In the 1950s, Israel was frequently attacked by Palestinian fedayeen, mainly from the Egyptian-occupied Gaza Strip.[87] In 1956, Israel joined a secret alliance with Great Britain and France aimed at regaining control of the Suez Canal, which the Egyptians had nationalized (see the Suez Crisis). Israel captured the Sinai Peninsula but was pressured to withdraw by the United States and the Soviet Union in return for guarantees of Israeli shipping rights in the Red Sea and the Canal.[88][89]
In the early 1960s, Israel captured Nazi war criminal Adolf Eichmann, an architect of the Final Solution, in Argentina and brought him to trial.[90] The trial had a major impact on public awareness of the Holocaust,[91] and Eichmann remains the only person ever to be executed by order of an Israeli court.[92]
Eki you haven't answered my question, post 285.
No, I don't feel it's right to kill, but I understand that it might make some people to kill. I also don't feel that the US should have the right to do everything they do around the world just because they can and no one can stop them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Easy Drifter
Yes, I do think Churchill understood the reasons why 9/11 attacks happened (they did happen regardless if they were right or wrong).
it has become increasingly appearant that wki-eki is not a finn....he is a troll from an english speaking nation....just look at his writing and obviously spends too much time watching american TV
Finnish TV is full of American programs and news about the US.Quote:
Originally Posted by markabilly