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Pardon me but how could they have the experience, they've never done one and Nandan alone isn't a recipe for success? Nobody knows what the car will be, winner or loser, but there are too many warning examples of 2WD kit car manufacturers stepping up to top level and failing to accomplish the task.Quote:
Originally Posted by N
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Originally Posted by jonkka
There has also been one in recent years that went from 2wd kit car to WRCar with devastating effectiveness...
do some research please...Quote:
Originally Posted by grugsticles
Two actuallyQuote:
Originally Posted by L5->R5/CR
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Originally Posted by T60
Although my memory makes me hesitant to say this.
An interestingly enough they are from the same country...
You don't mean Peugeot, or do you? Peugeot had a great 4wd car in 84-86, so they were not like newbies with their 206.Quote:
Originally Posted by T60
Not only, they are the same from the same group :DQuote:
Originally Posted by L5->R5/CR
And yes, only could be Peugeot and Citroen. Subaru and Ford aren't as well as Mitsubishi, and is ended the list of sucessful manufacturers on WRC on the recent years.
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Originally Posted by Zes
Yes Peugeot came with great history of the GpB days, but a gap of over 10 years meant that in effect they were in the same situation as Citroen were and Suzuki is coming in with their wrc cars.
Hardly comparable due to entirely different set of regulations and the only common denominator between 205T16 and 206WRC were team bosses Corrado Provera and Jean-Pierre Nicolas. Provera was Peugeot Talbot Sport PR head in 1980's and Nicolas drove that car, their later roles with 206WRC era you already know. Nandan had nothing to do with 205T16, he began at TTE with ill-fated ST205. But a good car he made out of 206WRC, hopefully he can rework that magic at Suzuki.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zes
If you were topboss at Suzuki and could hire who you wanted; who would then be
Team Number 1
Team Number 2
Test driver
1st Loeb
2nd Bosse (or Garde)
and test driver Panizzi on tarmac Solberg on gravel.
If possible, Loeb as tarmac test driver and Bosse on gravel but they already my team driver.
Also, I would order them to get a 3rd car, so I can put Latvala or Sordo in it for futur using after Bosses retirement ;) .
of drivers available now i would put in the Suzuki
1st Gardemeister
2nd Andersson
for testdrivers Lindholm and Aghini.
If Suzuki had allready a big budget and a sponsor:
Team Number 1 Gardemeister
Team Number 2 Carlsson
Test driver: Andersson
Team Number 1: Gardemeister
Team Number 2: Stohl
Test drivers: Andersson/Duval
if the car works good, I think, both can arrange a lot of manufacturer points ---> fight with swrt
Team Number 1: Gardemeister
Team Number 2: Meeke
Test drivers: Kresta
Team 1 Gardemeister
Team 2 Duval(tarmac and selected gravel)
Test: Andersson (snow and some gravel)
With this team would not be necessary to develop a WRC. Could win the championship with the SwiftQuote:
Originally Posted by Peugeot206WRC
Team #1: Gardmeister
Team #2: Meeke
Test driver: M. Higgins and Hanninen (with the idea of developing Hanninen to step in should Meeke not perform).
A balance of youth, maturity, experience and a potential for raw speed. Garmeister should be able score solid points. Meeke gets experience for the future and a chance to show he has got what it takes. Higgins has lots of WRC testing experience and seems to be a very steady driver in terms of being able to provide feedback and Hanninen shows flurishes of speed and seems to be able to find good set ups fast.
Otherwise I'd look for a driver from an important market for the company, drivers like Atko, Xevi, or some lesser known from an interest country.
1 Gardemeister
2 Duval
Test Driver Hanninen
1. Gardemeister
2. Aava or PG Andersson
Test driver: Rovanpera/Panizzi
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Originally Posted by L5->R5/CR
I know that Citroen went from Kit car xsara to full wrc spec. and that Skoda (which i wasn't following rally back then but read the results or something somewhere) that they use to have a different category they use to win (??) and then did a WRC spec car.. (octavia - beauiful might i add lol) :p
Skoda develloped the Octavia WRC out of a Ocatavia Kitcar (Formula 2, same as the Xsara KitCar), which was a evolution of the Felicia Kit car, which was a evolution of the first F2 car, the Favorit Kitcar. Both the Felicia and the Favorit were winning in their classes. Skoda has a long period of winning up to 1600cc I believe.
Peugeot made a succesfull F2 car, the 306 Maxi, and a very succesfull WRCar.
Citroen made a succesfull F2, even overaal winning in Catalunya and Corsica, and a very succesfull WRCar.
Seat could unfortunaly not build on from the F2 conquering Ibiza Kitcar into the Cordoba WRCar. Just as Hunday did not succeed to boost the Coupe Kitcar into a succesful Accent WRCar.
Hopefully Suzuki will follow into the footsteps of Peugeot and Citroen, and not in the Seat-Hyundai-Skoda pad of teams upgrading from the lower class into the big boys class.
it all depends on how much money you throw at it. VAG group wasn't commited enough to put big bucks in their projects, nor was Hyundai. Citroen and Peugeot put big money in development of their cars, and still are doing that to be competetive (Citroen). noone can make a winning combination out of unexperienced drivers and underdeveloped car.
so let's only hope mr. Tajima can convince japanese bosses, that a lot of money is just 3 dollars short of what is needed :)
1: Petter Solberg
2: PG
Test: Meeke
Quite a good choice Sulland :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
1. Gardemeister
2. PG (in gravel events)
2. Meeke ( in tarmac events)
All my hopes for PG in one car...
2007.:
1.Colin McRae
2.F. Duval
2008.:
1.C. Atkinson
2.Colin McRae
Team Number 1 - Gardemeister
Team Number 2 - Galli
Test driver - Aava :D
For the debut I think Duval, he tested for them too...
...http://www.racingworld.it/public/photo/sx4_big.jpg
:up: You are one funny power poster :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Motorsportfun
What makes you beleive we don't know that?
But who is really going to be, it's anyone's guess at the moment.
Hot off the press!
New drivers announced!
Ari Vatanen and Hannu Mikkola!
and then i wake up.....
Anyone who has more pictures of the test?
http://wrc.is.free.fr/posts/2007/06/12/353-suzuki-sx4Quote:
Originally Posted by J.Lindstroem
Wow first jump of the SX4 that I have seen!!, looks like the suspension has a long range, the wheels going well down like in the Focus isnt it?Quote:
Originally Posted by traxx
in real life i really dislike the look of the SX4 too much of a high heighted compact car! Though most are getting like that but still, i hope this thing will be a beast and can't wait to see it in action!
For Corsica i have heard Duval its one of the drivers.
The testdriver is sure it is Sebastian Lindholm
Somewhere I read that they might only enter 1 car / event this year.
I heard that too. Francois is quite a good choice. I hope Suzuki is going to enter two cars in this year's entry. The other car could be driven by Meeke or Gardemeister.Quote:
Originally Posted by Micke_VOC
When do the enteries for Corsica close?