not lando. he is in an excellent position to leave f1 tbh. its probably that chinese fella because money and hes not actuallu doing that well in testing, its just PR because of money. if that means A NEW TEAM in wrc next year, then thats good news.
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not lando. he is in an excellent position to leave f1 tbh. its probably that chinese fella because money and hes not actuallu doing that well in testing, its just PR because of money. if that means A NEW TEAM in wrc next year, then thats good news.
Thierry Neuville takes a sharp dig at a rival team boss: “Did you lose already your driver?” ;)
https://rallyjournal.com/thierry-neu...y-your-driver/
According paraguay journalist there are 9 requests of Rally1 cars to Rally Paraguay 2025.
Should be Galanti x2, Zaldivar x3, Saba,…
Then there will be at least 17 Rally1 cars, maybe even more. All time record!Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
is kalle realing returning full time next year? is there any official info on that or its just "he said that in 2023"? he looks to really enjoy these drifting events, woudnt be surpriesed if he went full EuroDriftMaster next year...? i think its also promoted by redbull gmbh
Yes next 2 years 2025 and 2026 he will be driving full time. His contract ends at the end of 2026. We'll see what he decides at that time.Quote:
Originally Posted by saco0o
msport: sesks/munster
toyota: kalle/evans/pajari
hyundai: neuville/tanak/fourmaux
do you see this line-up happening? if i could change something, i'd rather keep fourmaux in msport to have solberg in hyundai, just for the sake of the youngsters
latvala saying he understands the team needs 3 full time drivers fro 2025
https://www.diariomotor.com/competic...s-rally1-2025/
Hyundai not in any rush to decide their 3rd Driver...
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/hyund...-third-driver/
Agreed. As Colin Clark said on his blog this week, being a 3rd Driver isnt the role for a driver aspiring to join the WRC elite.Quote:
Originally Posted by saco0o
Fourmaux wants to prove himself and his speed and going to be the back-up points-scoring driver at Hyundai isnt the role for him.
This is where Toyota went wrong with Katsuta. He's been trying to be fast but is under pressure to score Manufacturers points if Evans/Ogier/ Rovanpera goes off.
Fourmaux needs to stay at M-Sport.
Comfort and ,,I know the car and everyone in the team is as a family member'' wise I would like him to stay in M-Sport, BUT drivers come n' go..
If you are offered a full time seat in a proper manu's car, then personally.. I think I would take it.
But never know, maybe his driving style would also suit with i20..
Fourmaux has nothing to gain by joining Hyundai. It would have been a good choice if there was potential to grow and take over from Neuville as lead driver in 2-3 years time. But, Hyundai won't be here in 2-3 years, so there is little sense in going there for a year as the 3rd driver and then be out of contract or in a Kronos Citroen 2006 situation.
Lol I remember one certain interview with Solberg about his time in Hyundai, he said that one guy, the world champion, was a cool guy, but the other one, a total cunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by saco0o
Finally we have an endurance event in 2025
Safari Rally Kenya? Acropolis Rally of Greece?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tauri_J
Pretty sure it will be KenyaQuote:
Originally Posted by Eli
A collection of all the rumours so far, as well as how likely they are to happen
https://www.powerslideblog.com/wrc-n...nning-for-2025
Is that actually true that M_Sport tried to get Mikkelsen or Suninen?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dimitris
[QUOTE=becher;1352333]Is that actually true that M_Sport tried to get Mikkelsen or Suninen?
Yes
I read about Mikkelsen before but never about Suninen.
Sounds quite strange that. MSport kicked him back in 2021 and now instead of driving Rally1 with them he should have decided to drive the Rally2 Hyundai which even before this year looked worse than Skoda.
Maybe both are still flying high and want big paycheck. And then M-Sport did close the door. If Adrien would actually going to Hyundai I would rather seek to Sesks. If Adrien would stay I would demote Munster to Rally2 car alongside Jurgenson and still put Sesks in second car.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
He probably has a few million euros to gain form joining Hyundai....Quote:
Originally Posted by macebig
And that's the problem. He has a limited career window to make those millions.
[QUOTE=Dimitris;1352334]You seen to know the facts so give us the info how this happened and failed ?Quote:
Originally Posted by becher
But if he, like many others, has confidence he has a great career ahead, this isnt a good move. Playing the long game as M-Sport No.1 will pay off better down the line.Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Question mark may be about the future of the sport: will they be enough manufacturers paying good money for drivers in the future?
Not that simple from what we see currently.
Anyway, from last Abiteboul’s comments, it sounds like Hyundai has not really decided for sure to go with Fourmaux, waiting to see what’s Toyota wants to do and the results from the end of the season (probably especially Chile for Lappi as I think it will be difficult for Hyundai 3rd driver to make big results in Central Europa and Japan).
I believe Fourmaux can earn a lot of money in Hyundai with one year and the doors won't be closed in M-Sport after one year away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Fourmaux isn't getting a seven figure contract from Hyundai when they're one foot out the door, be real.
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie WRC;1352345]He had to bring his own sponsors etc, M-Sport wanted him to finance his drive most likely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dimitris
If he will be good elsewhere his value will increase and M-Sport is already in a hard situation to match his demands and try to match the improve performance of a car. Tanak and Loubet have taken their consistency problems elsewhere, they don't have enough funds to attract someone like Seb anymore. The pair of Puma and Adrien works well. And it should continue as (if 2027 will be put together right) Ford could be back full time. And having already proven and consistent driver in the team is a great chance of winning the titles straight away.Quote:
Originally Posted by trykmann
M sport tried to get Olvier Solberg too, but he opted to go for one more year with Skoda try to be wrc 2 championQuote:
Originally Posted by becher
Lindholm was testing a Hyundai Rally1
https://rallyjournal.com/emil-lindho...is-rally1-car/
good. if we could get sesks in msport, pajari in toyota, lindholm in hyundai, that would be really good for 2025.
toyota and hyundai planing to run 3 full timers each PLUS the wild card entries here and there.
and msport now is saying that "costs are not the problem". WELL, THEN GET A 3rd FULL TIME ENTRY TOO
if its Solberg, then its perfect!
I bet that after this year's car performance and durability, all who rejected their offer are banging their heads in the wall.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krigen
Funny he said the car isn't good against the competition in WRC2. They just didn't hit the spot with choosing the right drivers. Paddon and Meeke, and I bet the title mountain would be shaking in all directions.Quote:
Originally Posted by saco0o
If you actually read the article Lindholm was just making sure newly build cars work.Quote:
Originally Posted by saco0o
On a realistic note while Sesks did show good pace on his favorite rallies, he is nowhere near top of Rally2 on tarmac, so full time at this point is a bit of a stretch. Similarly Lindholm has basically won two rallies in total in his WRC2/Rally2 carrier.
Solberg got stable on gravel recently so he could do well on gravel. Avoiding tarmac just about all year (did Monte out of classification)
Maybe. But at the time where seats were getting decided the cars of Tanak and Loubet were falling apart already after one shakedown run and Tanak claimed after every rally that he he no chance to fight with Toyota/Hyundai.Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
So it looked like completely foolish idea to join Msport.
I am still not quite sold on their performance either. Fourmaux is mostly getting lots of positions and results by road position+others crashing. Reliabilty is indeed much better though.
I agree that I don’t think the car is quite there with the others, it’s clearly improved in reliability and handling balance, but I think the engine still misses a bit and the suspension is not the best. It looks to me like it doesn’t control the mass of the car as well as the others and it lands like a turd off jumps etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Clearly I am just a bloke watching from the outside, so could be completely wrong, but that’s the impression I get.
The cost of the car, not the cost of running it.Quote:
Originally Posted by saco0o
Neuville says the decline of the WRC means there was nowhere else for him to go. He also mentions the possibility of a part-time programme in the future...
https://rallyjournal.com/harsh-words...-state-of-wrc/
[QUOTE=Dimitris;1352393]In other words the same situation that it's been for years for non-elite drivers. Saying M-Sport failed to sign Suninen or Mikkelsen isnt right, it was the drivers who failed to provide the required funding.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Neuville may jump to IMSA or WEC. He's already done some circuit racing in the TCRs, so if Hyundai intends to carry him over, it will probably happen.
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie WRC;1352419]Quote:
Originally Posted by Dimitris
Mikkelsen preferred a partial programme with Hyundai over a full season with M-Sport, and Suninen deemed it too expensive, so no.
Fourmaux has the speed this year,watching the full onboard from Acropolis powerstage this year was quite scary.