Wat used to be the rules in the past do not necesary aplly in these modern woke times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nitrodaze
Nowadays everything is dangerous according to the people in charge of f1.
Remember, they redflagged silverstone too.
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Wat used to be the rules in the past do not necesary aplly in these modern woke times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nitrodaze
Nowadays everything is dangerous according to the people in charge of f1.
Remember, they redflagged silverstone too.
Utter nonsense how Max can change tyres in the pit after a red flag and inherit the lead like this..
I guess it makes up a bit for Silverstone with pretty much a non penalty for Lewis but two wrongs don't make a right.
I'm not impressed, the FIA need a major rethink on their rules. Things like this make a complete mockery of the sport.
Max is crazy. That has to be a penalty for sure
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Mazapin never even lifted. Smh
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Silverstone is understandable. They had to repair the badly disarranged barriers.Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
I wonder if they will give verstappen a penalty for overtaking outside of the track.
To be honest, l think it was fair to take advantage of the situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zico
That was a very plain infraction of the rules. But we wait to hear what the stewards have to say about it. They have been very weird so far, so nothing they do would surprise me.Quote:
Originally Posted by truefan72
Why is Masi having a negotiation with RBR?
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They would probably tell him to give the place back at the restartQuote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
Nothing they couldn't have done under a few laps of safety car, just like here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nitrodaze
Its just the safety hysteria of the fia again.
Red number two.
Lewis owned the corner...but in all fairness violated regs to get more heat in the tires.
Ocon did nothing wrong, but wouldn't have been there without the Max and Lewis incident.
Towards mid field...still hard to say.
They are probably his paymasters.Quote:
Originally Posted by truefan72
Why is Masi getting involved like this?
This entire thing is dubious at best.
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It is starting Ocon, Hamilton, Verstappen
Are we at a bazaar or a potentially championship deciding race? This dealing for starting positions is pathetic and unworthy of F1.
It is unbelievable. He is negotiating the regulations with Redbull and informing Mercedes their decision. The guy is an idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by truefan72
It looks like bottas was given the order to take verstappen out. If max hadn't braked too late and gone wide, bottas would have crashed into him.
Looking at the incident again not only did max pass RBR outside the track but he also had a dangerous rentry, before the safe entry point, impeded Hamilton and forced him to lose another place. To be fair he should also get a time penalty for that
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Also mazapin is a nutjob. All the cars around him slowed but he simply accelerated. This guy should not be in F1
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Indeed. If i was redbull i would have just taken the 5 seconds penalty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nitrodaze
They are playing "Let's Make a Deal" :confused: :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by truefan72
How many times is max gonna pass hamilton on the warm up and will you look at that, he himself has left more than a 10 car gab. Lol
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Third time lucky for Verstappen :D
With the negotiation that happened, clearly these guys are keen not to offend Redbull. So what do you think?Quote:
Originally Posted by truefan72
I guess they wanted to give them the opportunity to give the place back that could not be given because of the crash. Seems bizzare to negotiate but its not so different than if the race had continued with no red flag.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nitrodaze
If a rule has been broken. They are paid to apply the consequential penalty. Not to negotiate what penalty to apply. It is that simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zico
Max didn't have the opportunity to give the place back because of the crash.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nitrodaze
What you are saying would mean that giving the place back (as they normally allow) is against the rules? They have that exact same option in normal circumstances with no red flag.
How it panned out is just an unprecedented situation and just seems weird until you consider the above.
Are they going to finish this race under VSC?
This is totally ridiculous, nobody is cleaning anything up. Useless track, useless marshalling.
Indeed. Why even bother giving a VSC for a dangerous situation when they don't fix the danger under it?Quote:
Originally Posted by gm99
The point about giving the place back is to avoid a penalty. Otherwise a penalty applies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zico
Exactly, nobody is doing anything. I wonder if there is any debris to clear in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by gm99
These VSC are messing up the racing. The marshalling is very poor.
Exactly... so why should Max not be given that same opportunity as applies normally.. just because of the red flag?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nitrodaze
I said Redbull would take Hamilton out and they have done it.
The point is that he is not for the stewards to give. They should only apply the penalty that applies when they look at the matter. It is not up for negotiation or discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zico
Masi is a joke. Max break tested for sure. This thing is a joke
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It is an unending catalogue of incompetency. It is too astonishing to believeQuote:
Originally Posted by truefan72
No, I'm pretty sure you are wrong bud. The stewards tell the team of a driver to give the place back in normal race circumstances too. I've heard it discussed on the team radios before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nitrodaze
If he wants to give the place back, he would go to one side and slow to allow the Mercedes through. This was something else. one would not slow suddenly with a car close directly bbehinmd. Their brains in not connected now is it.Quote:
Originally Posted by truefan72