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Spectator info for Rally North Wales: http://www.rallynorthwales.co.uk/wp-...ation-2022.pdf
I was thinking of going but it might be a bit far to go especially when Rallynuts is only two weeks later:
http://rallynutsrally.co.uk/spectators/
Cwmysgawen is running again this year, might go to that one in the morning then Hafren after.
Yes really interesting comments.Quote:
Originally Posted by HKSjbg
A town centre spectator stage straight after the event start may be on the cards? Whatever sounds like the rally can only get bigger.
A lot of good feedback on the stages from drivers, even Chris Ingram was really impressed and found it great prep for Croatia.
I think they’re easily the best closed road stages in England. The Corbeau has always been a bit meh to me, The Three Shires improved a lot last year, may well be even better this year. But North West seems to have the best quality, flowing, undulating stages. I’m so glad they got rid of that horrid stage at Weeton this year too!
Rallynuts (formerly the Kerridge, Mutiny, Severn Valley) Stages. Haven't decided where to spectate, a shame no access to Hafren forest; so it will either be Sweetlamb or Myherin.
I was thinking of trying Cwmysgawen but I’m a bit underwhelmed by the spectator spot - doesn’t look very ‘open’ to me. I too was hoping to get deep into Hafren this time around as I went to Myherin in November.
There didn’t really seem to be anything stopping anyone from just walking further and further into the forest, away from the designated spectator area. Is that technically allowed if you’re being sensible about where you stand or will the marshals not stand for it?
I might just give Sweet Lamb a go but I’m not interested in the water splash area to be honest.
Also hoping for this damp weather to continue!
I tend to stay in the bowl area for the first run - however for the afternoon I walk further into the stage, and it's a bit more interesting.
I'm not - I'll be out working on results!Quote:
Originally Posted by HKSjbg
Let's not speak technically. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by HKSjbg
In reality, so long as you're off the road an hour before the first car is due and end up somewhere sensible, out of the way, nobody will mind. I've even spectated on marshalled junctions in the middle of nowhere before and never had any issues, really only good experiences with 99% of marshals/officials. You've just got to be sensible and respect the marshals/situation.
I'll probably go for Cwmysgawen for a change, I've walked it in peace time so would be interested to see it in action, though there's somewhere in Myherin I'd like to spectate, but I'm not sure it'll be used, so that'd be a gamble! Just glad we can pay on the gate again.
The dust was a bit much on the north North Wales, could do without having to factor in wind direction! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Steve Boyd
I know. It made a right mess of my keyboard & screen, & I was a couple of miles away from the stage where there was mobile data coverage.Quote:
Originally Posted by the sniper
Mintex Rally 'touring event" tommorow in a bit of a shambles due to its main spectator location getting pulled at the 11th hour. Leaves only a run round the car parj at Odsal Stadium even though they are using Duncombe Park. Same organiser was involved with a last minute canning of a demo event in Bradford last year sadly...
Is Duncombe no longer spectator friendly? Or they just didn't want to use that venue?
Went to Sweetlamb for the Rallynuts Stages; nice day for the most part - bright & sunny, but a cool breeze. Plenty of action, and not one, but two Fiat 131 Abarths......Watched in the bowl in the morning, then went exploring in the afternoon further into the stage. If being honest, I prefer it in it's old date, early June, and and the forests south of Builth Wells.
I didn’t get to go in the end; with the one car between me and the other half it just wasn’t practical in the end :(
Shame because some of the videos I’ve seen it wasn’t too dusty!
Is this the ‘bowl area’: https://youtu.be/B8MqKtgXxD8 That would have been a good spot to watch if I’d been able to get there.
I think the next rally for me will be Three Shires, by which time I’ll be living a ten minute walk from the service park so no excuses haha
No, that's not the bowl area - that's almost the same place that I was in the afternoon.......
They have used Duncombe on the Rally of the Tests etc but dont seem to want to have people watching.
Looks like the Odsal "stage" was a bit of a joke and traffic issues in Leeds saw only a handful of cars make it.
Think the organiser means well however this appears to be the latest in a series of unfortunate problems and suspect it will be to do with liability insurance and possible MSUK involvement as even "demo" events now seem to fall under the same banner as a full stage rally.
Tour of Epynt this Saturday; still no news on spectators, so I guess that means none allowed.
Circuit of Ireland ITRC Rd3 this weekend too...
http://www.irishtarmac.com/itrc-cont...it-of-ireland/
Is the Epynt Commandant still trying to assess what rallying is...?Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
I had heard he'd been very much made aware of what rallying was and was full of enthusiasm however if that translates into allowing members of the public onto the ranges when a rally is on I'm not so sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by the sniper
Seems Devine has switched to a Polo for the CoI. I hope this is just while his Fiesta is being fixed.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQNf9caX...g&name=900x900
Speaking of the CoI the maps have been posted on rally-maps:
https://www.rally-maps.com/Circuit-o...and-Rally-2022
I’m not here to bash the organisers or the event but it’s a pretty sad state of affairs that although 11 stages and 192km, there are 2(!) unique stages. Basically Glendun and Cairncastle run three times each and then again in reverse (though Sunday sees Glendun run twice and Cairncastle is actually 7.5km longer than it’s reverse counterpart).
Meanwhile the Manx (International) Rally is running 175.5km of double-run only stages a month later:
https://www.manxautosport.org/wp-con...ally-Final.pdf
I was thinking the same... the Circuit of Ireland is now more of a run around the block.
Another pity is the increasing dominance of the Polo R5 over there - 6 of the top 10 cars now. On a podcast I heard that any Polo that comes up for sale in Ireland is sold in about 15 mins !! MEM said they could've sold their Polo's twice over no bother.
Here is a bit of an explanation as to the route for the Circuit.
https://rallyinsight.com/2022/04/08/...d-rally-route/
Don't think so, this was talked about after Galway, so its been in the pipeline a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
https://rallyinsight.com/2022/04/13/...ch-to-polo-r5/
Also going back to the Circuit of Ireland, as you can see on the stage maps there are a lot of chicanes and if a competitor hits a bale or barrier that then needs a marshal to move it back to its original position it will be a 30 second penalty for each offence.
Hopefully this doesn't spoil the event for some crews, as the crews were also saying they have been told at recce sign on if they even touch the plastic barriers with a wing mirror it will be a 10 second penalty although i can't see any mention of this in either the regs or the bulletin.
Time will tell
Yeah I just read that too.Quote:
Originally Posted by satnav
The Polo R5 has apparently become the car to have in Ireland since they all saw the speed of Edwards and Pryce on the 2021 Ulster Rally.
Thanks for that! It all seems fair enough given the explanation offered - if it was just some marketing hype trying to avoid the burning question about ‘why only two stages’ then you’d feel a bit wary for the state of the rally in the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by satnav
On this basis I’m sure for next year they’ll be able to run a more comprehensive stage itinerary.
Polo might be the machine to have but a Hyundai is the car in front just now.
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Sal yet again
This is true. Plus Craig Breen got some development done for the i20 R5 specifically for Irish roads so Moffett must be benefitting from this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sal yet again
The early rounds may have suited the Hyundai but let''s see how it goes on the future events compared to the Polo's.
Galway and West Cork are pretty substantially different, both in terms of the nature of the stages, and the usual conditions competitors can expect to face.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
The fact that Moffett in the i20 performed as well in the torrential rain and slippery, technical stages of Galway as he did in the dry, much faster lanes of West Cork suggests it'll be a tough task for anyone to beat him for the rest of the year.
Devine needs to hope the gearbox in the Polo isn't as fragile in his hands as the Fiesta's seemed to be with him behind the wheel...
Anyway, we won't learn too much this weekend, since it's only really a warm-up for the big race in Killarney in two weeks' time :lips: then we'll see fireworks!
On fast tarmac roads Polo R5 is still the best.
To be fair there's not much between the top drivers here and it could just be who was feeling good on the day deciding the results, not their cars.
Plus Josh Moffett has been around a while now and won the Irish National Championship last year, so he could just leading on skill regardless of machinery.
Some links to keep track of the Circuit
Results https://www.rallyscore.net/#/results...uit-of-Ireland
Event live stream https://www.youtube.com/c/HMProductions
Onthepacenote live reports https://www.facebook.com/onthepacenote
Pity the forum's been down as the CoI was really exciting. Enjoyed the live coverage and great battles at the top.
You can write us a short summary :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
I kept checking the website to see any news - and nothing, so presumed no spectators. Only to find out on Friday evening on the British Rally forum that spectator areas were being prepared. Too late by then, I had no supplies in. Even now the website hasn't been updated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sal yet again
The main thing was that there was a battle and no car or driver was dominant.Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
Henry led in the Fiesta and took big time on some of stages until his engine caused retirement. Moffett in the i20 was very quick and consistent throughout. Devine showed good pace in his new Polo and then Fisher came up with a great finale and won it with a run of fastest times in his VW..
Rally Maps still has the note "⚠️ No spectators allowed! ⚠️"... :D https://www.rally-maps.com/Tour-of-Epynt-2022Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
Funny old game, following British rallying.
I mapped the event two weeks ago and at that time they were saying no spectators. Seb (The owner of the website) holds those events until after they have run. I did not bother amending this, my apologies.