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It's worth about 5 cars on day 1, then mostly Monza kilometers. I dunno, I thought there'd be more to it. But I'm here and they're there, where they can't run their own WRCar, can't enter WRC2, cant enter WRC3 - yet still finding a way. Good luck to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
Maybe Lefebvre is driving for the same team als Rossel and he wants to take points away from Kajetanowicz?
As far as I'm aware, Lefebvre will be run by DG Sport, while Rossel is run by Sainteloc. Not that that means they can't cooperate...
- it works for all days, WRC3 always starts after WRC2 and before non-priority no matter their position on the standings (see last year for some extreme examples)Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCStan
- nothing keeps them from entering as WRC2, except that it's more expensive
I was thinking the same, even thought it's a different team, maybe there is some support from Citroen.Quote:
Originally Posted by dupanton
Besides that, does anyone know what was the result of Rossell's appeal from Greece disqualification? The hearing was held on 09/11.
Is there rule which denied Lefebvre to enter WRC2 ?
(I don´t think so because Lappi, Mikkelsen, Solberg and Suninen etc can enter WRC2)
He would have TV-time and better starting position in WRC2, why did they choose WRC3 ?
True but at first I wondered the real value of this alone on a (mostly) single venue rally for a non-championship runner. It is a fair thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Yup - I skimmed and misread the rule that says you can't score team points unless you're registered before the 5th round. Also missed any inevitable recent conversations on this.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
This I can understand clearly.Quote:
Originally Posted by ouvreur
It’s too expensive?Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
Piero Longhi (#50) is even more surprising! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by wwbroe
Both Rossel and Lefebvre were or still are sponsored by the French federation FFSA, they both drive Citroens, so who knows, your theory may be true...Quote:
Originally Posted by dupanton
Yes, I do. The hearing was held and... believe it or not... there is still no decision. According to the article below decision will be made within 10-15 days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Co-driven
You can read more about it here (if you speak Polish):
https://pl.motorsport.com/wrc/news/n...dyktu/6763219/
It's very very expensive indeed. Kevin Abbring had the same problem in Monte Carlo. In the end he started as privateer.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Rough numbers:Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
WRC2 Teams registration: €10.000,00 (but could run under Citroen Racing, for example)
Rally entry fee: €7.500,00
WRC3 driver registration: €3.000,00
Rally entry fee: €4.000,00
So potentially if we talk about entering as some team that already entered this season (say TRT) we are talking aboutQuote:
Originally Posted by Co-driven
7 500 for WRC2
vs
3000 +4000 = 7 000 Euro for WRC3
Am I missing something?
Chris Patterson said on WRC Backstories that the new co-driver for Rally Monza will be the one for Greensmith's 2022 WRC season.
Don’t think so (even an help from Citroen), Lefebvre was yet driving in Monza in 2020 (we could argue that Bulacia was in the game for Citroen at that time but Lefebvre was useless and I think there is way better than Lefebvre to send for Citroen).Quote:
Originally Posted by dupanton
+ as long as the arbitration about Greece is not done (or if it is confirmed), it is Rossel who must take points to Kajto who is in the lead thanks to tiebreaker rules.
And if the arbitration is reversed (giving the win to Rossel with Kajto 2nd in Greece), Kajto couldn’t win anymore the championship with the 5 out of 7 rule.
So really no interest for Citroen to send Lefebvre: only in a really particular case he may have an interest for Rossel considering how small is the gap
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FETYgWYX...jpg&name=largeQuote:
Originally Posted by tigerlily
I believe a solution has been found that means Lefebvre is now the entered driver and they will be outside of WRC3.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Is Breen doing the recce?
No Route Note Cars on some of the mountain stages (for second pass). Does anyone know the reason for this?
Entry list is now updated: "45: Changed to non-priority & swap driver/co-driver (authorised by the FIA)"Quote:
Originally Posted by Lancia Stratos
Mountain stages are repeated quickly, no time for them to go in between, and likely no big changes in conditionsQuote:
Originally Posted by Co-driven
Just 21 hrs left for making your Pickems for Rally Monza. Pick your top eight drivers!
Closing time tomorrow morning at 07.30 CET.
What a ridiculous shakedown. I've seen local rallysprints that do better than this crap.
Then again, it's an abomination of a rally.
But it's representative of half of the rally :DQuote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
Live contract signing on the shakedown stream for Gus Greensmith... What is this, WWE? :D
Should have shown dad picking up the recipt! :p
It's quite funny that he is signing a contract after ending as 9/10 in WRCs and getting beaten by Rally2 car on top in first SD run.
Anyway the question is what is in the contract. " You will drive all the rallies you pay for?"
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Originally Posted by mknight
ahahahahahahhahahahaahahahahah
thats a good one mknight!!
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Originally Posted by mknight
Ha ha, yeah I would imagine it’s something like that!
In all seriousness tho, this coming season is the acid test for Gus. If that Puma is competitive, he has no excuses.
I hope it goes well for the lad…
It will not be easy to judge whether Puma is competetive though. Sure if its fighting on podium regularly you might say that.Quote:
Originally Posted by doubled1978
But Breen has close to no experience on like 1/2 rallies and hasn't done a few of the others in long time. Fourmaux also little rally experience and little 4WD experience on top. Loeb (if he shows up) has had another long break. So if they are fighting only for 4-5th place it might as well be the drivers.
If they got Tanak or someone like that it would be easier.
Buon giorno!
I expect Neuville and Evans to fight for the Win. Ogier will just quietly secure a good position and the title. Rovanperä and Sordo might surprise us. Out of the rest, I expect Fourmaux to be the fastest, but I also hope Suninen finds speed in the Hyundai. It won't be an easy task, as we've seen previously on tarmac.
As for RC2, difficult to bet against Mikkelsen. Maybe Rossel is going to throw all in but the shakedown wasn't yet promising...
Morning guys!
If bad weather prevents the aeroplane from taking off, how could someone do it better?Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
A super strong stage from Ogier here...
Neuville and Rovanperä massive loss on this stage..
WOW!!! Ogier!