I might remembet incorrectly but, wasn't Tänak on DMacks constantly better than Ostberg and Camilli in main team?Quote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
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I might remembet incorrectly but, wasn't Tänak on DMacks constantly better than Ostberg and Camilli in main team?Quote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
Faster but not as consistent. Sardinia, Poland and Wales were the only occasions where he finished higher than the best M-Sport car. Also scored less points than Östberg.Quote:
Originally Posted by bandit12
https://juwra.com/season_2016_points.html
yeah, the rallies where dmack allowed to be better, he was...the tires were so unstable, working or not working at all...the overheating was the main problem
quite a big contrast in stage wins though that year, Tänak got 30, Ostberg only 2 and Camilli 1
It was close in 2013 with Neuville in second MSport team. Only 6 points and he was pretty much alone.Quote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
Interesting if M-Sport is able to manage 4 cars as soon as Monte Carlo; might help some drivers (Mikkelsen, Bulacia, Gryazin?) through the season and especially interesting for Huttunen if he can do a couple of drives, it might be the booster he needed.
The Northern Irishman has been testing the Czech Republic firm’s next generation Fabia Rally2 car this year and Škoda Motorsport director Michal Hrabánek says he would like to convert the five-time world rally winner’s test contract into a deal to have him in the thick of the WRC2 fight for next season.
“It would be interesting to see him [competing] in a Škoda Fabia Rally2,” Hrabánek said. “We have done – and we are doing – some work with Kris already. We are very happy with him and the way things are going.”
Hrabánek pointed out that any kind of Meeke return would have to come with one of Škoda Motorsport’s customer teams, in the same way Andreas Mikkelsen competed with German-based Toksport outfit this season to win WRC2.
He continued: “We are focused on the testing and the development with the new car, we haven’t discussed any kind of competition. As you know Škoda Motorsport does not compete as a factory team, so any kind of competition would have to come through one of our customers.
https://www.wrc.com/en/news/2021/wrc...ng-meeke-back/
AFAIK That statement is from roughly two months back. No idea why they released it now on wrc.com (unless Hrabánek didn't repeat exactly the same thing again himself).Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
I could see Meeke competing in WRC2 with Skoda if Mikkelsen doesn’t continue with them, they certainly seem happy with him as a test driver as it appears he has done the bulk of the mileage on the new car so far.
Ogier set a best time of 1m50.647s, admitting that he made an error on what should have made his main effort with fresh tires. That was just under two seconds away from Toyota regular Mike Conway, just over a second and a half off Buemi and one second slower than Toyota’s other rookie – 20-year-old Frenchman Charles Milesi, who had been part of Team WRT’s LMP2 title-winning line-up this year.
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/what-...022-wrc-plans/
Yep the Meeke comments from Hrabanek were published by Dirtfish some 2 months ago, so strange WRC.com copied them two months later.
Meeke surely can show speed of the car and give feedback.
But he isn't exactly the obvious choice for any championship push with his stability, though dropping worst result in both WRC2 and ERC helps.
He needs loads more seat time; as the article mentions, he needs to get in a car and test/race, preferably a prototype, but a GT would still be better than no drive.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Hyundai won't have customer Rally1 cars
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/hyund...-like-m-sport/
More confirmation that Hyundai are still behind the others.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Also the cost of a hybrid is more than the current cars.
Not good for the drivers hoping for more seats or fans hoping to watch more cars.
Adamo saying "we are behind" again, isn't proof... nobody truly knows, and it's in his interest to make Toyota and M-Sport believe Hyundai are less of a threat. We will only know the truth in the south of France, in January.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Can't argue with the rest of what you've said though. More cost and less cars isn't a recipe for success - unless they're interesting to watch, and give us exciting rallies to follow. Again, we will see in January, but I don't feel so confident about that.
Replacing an already expensive category of cars with an even more expensive one is not a good idea...
They're not even running the actual 2022 car. That's proof.Quote:
Originally Posted by ouvreur
They're behind....
And the others are all, of course, running the same spec of car that will cross the start ramp in Monaco in January?Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
It's all smoke and mirrors. Believe nothing!
Well Adamos job is first and foremost to win titles and not make money.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
He failed to win a single one of the 4 they aimed at before start of the season.
The main question is what this means for Loubet (and Veiby?).
It means that they are driving Puma...Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
...if they are still driving Rally1.
As we can see from the testing thread today Toyota wasn’t either…..Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
Not the finished car no, but they have been using the new Yaris GR bodyshape, not an old Yaris WRC mule.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Plus Tom Fowler confirmed in Sept that they are jumping forward now as the driveline, transmission & suspension are settled.
You mean just like Hyundai have been using the new i20 N body shape, not an old i20 Coupe mule?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
So why exactly does the Toyota test car show they are as far behind (M-Sport) as Hyundai ?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDwcBV2X...jpg&name=large
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/hyund...-half-of-2022/
So instead of sharing the third car, Both Solberg jr. & Sordo will compete for the second half of the season.
and the problem is..?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Too many new cars in startlist? :D
They are signed Hyundai drivers and why shouldn't they drive if team can prepare the cars?
Adamo doesn't say (and neither does the article directly) that the 4th car would be for Sordo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Sure running Solberg on rallies when he is not scoring makes sense, but for 4th car in Estonia, Finland and NZ it would make more sense to run for example Suninen.
Didn't say it was a problem lol, the way I see it, the more the merrier.Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
Also true but again, still a long long way to go until we'll actually see what's what (& see how Suninen gets on next weekend).Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
“ He will be assured of a drive in the Hyundai i20N Rally2 car for one of the World Rally Championship events in 2022.”
https://kawowo.com/2021/11/11/tundo-...hyundai-offer/
Wuorela at it again, seems to be pretty confident that Ott doesnt continue
https://twitter.com/MiikaWuorela/sta...97814507610119
Jarveoja just got his new Tucson couple of days ago.. seems that they are staying :D
And why should Tanak test with new car after all.
Motivation was rather the question..
WRC Wings on the Yaris GR Rally1 aero development:
"The development testing season for the 2022 Rally1 cars is reaching its climax as the end of the year approaches, with the design phase almost complete and the teams have already started the homologation process. Now it’s time to test the final designs, so we can discover some of the new solutions for the cars. This week, it was Toyota who tested the 2022 GR Yaris Rally1 car on some gravel roads of Central Catalonia."
https://www.wrcwings.tech/2021/11/12...-yaris-rally1/
WRC - Thierry Neuville before Monza: "If I will miss Ogier? The driver yes, the character no"
Winner of the last two asphalt rallies, Thierry Neuville is one of the favorites for the final round of the season at Monza. 3rd in the general classification before this final rally, he must finish ahead of Kalle Rovanpera, his last opponent, to definitively lock this place on the world championship podium.
He will also attend, from afar, the battle for the title between Sébastien Ogier and Elfyn Evans. But does he have a favorite? Not sure. "Between the two, it's going to be a good fight. They both deserve it," he explains over Olivier Gaspard.
“Evans, like us, has had quite a bit of mechanical trouble throughout the season. Ogier, nothing at all, apart from a little outing in Sweden he didn't have the slightest hitch. , we do not count the number of victories but the number of points "adds Neuville.
Monza will be the last race of Ogier’s final season, which is heading towards an 8th World Championship title. Ogier, an opponent who has marked Neuville throughout these years of fierce competition between the two pilots: "It is a real pleasure for us to measure ourselves against him. We had some great fights. We were able to win some of them. , some others were lost.
It has always been an additional motivation for us to give our all. If I will miss him? The character, no, but the pilot clearly. In a championship, we want to have as many great drivers as possible. So, yes he will be missed. Afterwards, the next generation is there, young people are arriving and they will soon be at the level of the best. There will be great fights "
The constructors' title for Hyundai?
Another issue that persists is the constructors' title, which will fall either into the hands of Toyota (474 points) or Hyundai (427). Asked about the subject, the driver Hyundai Neuville was rather defeatist: "I think that this year, we do not deserve this title. We have known too many worries. What was our strong point in the past has become one of our weak points. This is also one of the reasons why this weekend we are no longer fighting for the title. For the constructors' title, there is very little chance. If there were still any, I thinks Ott Tanak would be there. "
So Neuville, favorite of this rally on asphalt? "Yes, I'm part of it but there are others. We saw it well in Spain, Dani Sordo was very fast, Elfyn Evans too. And then there will be others who will be surprising. The course remains atypical, so we can expect surprises. The keys to winning? It all depends on the weather, the choice of tires and the strategy. We must not make mistakes, that's what made us happy. cost victory here last year. "
A Top 3? "I want to get back to 1, it worked well in Spain. Then it will be Elfyn Evans and Sébastien Ogier" concluded Neuville.
https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/ra...on?id=10880624
charakter wins no Titels.....i thought Mimimi Hamilton is in F1, but now we have also a Mimimimi in WRC :)Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Ogier ‘sometimes regrets’ not deciding to retire now
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/ogier...to-retire-now/
So, let’s start new WRC2/3 era.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
[jerk]There's nothing new about WRC, SWRC, PWRC.[/jerk]Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Let's go!
https://dirtfish.com/rally/fia-launc...tem-from-2022/
FIA rally driver ranking coming for 2022
On the FIA website they published useful scheme but in very small resolution...
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