Complete waste of 6 laps. Alonso wasted his tires defending and now he will probably not pass sainz.
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Complete waste of 6 laps. Alonso wasted his tires defending and now he will probably not pass sainz.
Sainz nearly took out hamilton with some terrible defending
If Alonso hadn't held up Hamilton for those six laps, Hamilton would have passed Ocon for the lead...Quote:
Originally Posted by truefan72
Indeed. Alonso is the big hero to alpine here. His defence has stopped lewis from winning.Quote:
Originally Posted by gm99
This is racing, Alonso is not paid to get out of the way. Besides, Alonso did Ocon and Alpine a huge favour. If he hadn't delayed Hamilton, Alpine would have lost the race. It looked hard but he was playing the team game.Quote:
Originally Posted by gm99
BRAVO!!!
CONGRATULATIONS TO ESTEBAN OCON
I love it when we get a new race winner. It makes F1 so worthwhile.
Wow wow wow. Ocon!!!!!
Is that a tear in my eye?
Alonso cost Hamilton the win and p4
It was an unnecessary defense that cost both drivers.
Awesome day for Alpine nonetheless p1&5
Awesome day for Alpha Tauri p6&7
Awesome day for williams p8&9
Lol gasly getting the fastest lap. That was a Helmut Marko call.
A decent recovery for Hamilton.
But the day belongs to Ocon.
It was a special top 10 and a great way to go into the break
Well said. Finally, Williams have six F1 points on the board. Aston would be very pleased with another brilliant race from Vettel.Quote:
Originally Posted by truefan72
I think this race has given Mercedes a peek at what they losing by letting this young brilliant racer go.
I wasn't saying anything different, it was just a response to truefan72 who was wondering why Alonso was blocking Hamilton. Alonso did very well IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nitrodaze
Its funny how you cut off the rest of my post which was that he also cost p4 for himself which was clearly on the cards with a slower sainz. He chose to defend p5 where he could have had p4 easily. It wasn't smart racing. On his part. But with the victory celebrations it now seems clear that his job was to hold up the charging Hamilton for his teammate Ocon and that is fair if that is the case. So kudos to Alonso
Pathetic booing by some fans.
It was another blunder by mercedes strategy.
Beyond happy fir Ocon and team Alpine.
Russel also cost himself by not being able to pass MSC. Congrats to Latifi.
Donkeys of the race are Bottas and stroll. Just a bit surprised stroll did not get a penalty too for Spa.
Yup. Fair pointQuote:
Originally Posted by gm99
I think Alonso realized that overtaking Sainz would leave him vulnerable to Hamilton in the process of doing the overtake. I could see Hamilton overtaking both of them during the overtake. But the wise old head of Alonso realises that would seriously put Ocon's chances at risk and decided to sacrifice p4 to hold back the faster Hamilton. He probably got a call on the radio about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by truefan72
Alonso didn't choose to defend P5 for him, but P1 for Ocon. Like I said before, that was understandably more important to him and the team. Whether Fernando finishes in 4th or 5th doesn't make that much of a difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by truefan72
Yep, the strategist messed up again. This was a race that was in the bag. Russell had damage and offered the team his position for Latifi who had better pace. It was very mature selfless teamwork from Russell. He earned my respect today.Quote:
Originally Posted by truefan72
I forgot to congratulate Vettel and Aston Martin. Stellar performance. He has now made himself the clear #1 in the team and if life was fair stroll’s seat would be in jeopardy
Pigs will fly first l thinkQuote:
Originally Posted by truefan72
Ok so stroll now gets a 5 place grid penalty too
Ok I must have missed that. Well done then by Russell. Great day for Williams.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nitrodaze
The crap Mercedes strategist left 10 championship points on the table today. What should have been a 20 points lead in the constructors championship is merely 10 points and 6 points in the driver's championship.
Mercedes is ahead, but within touching distance from Redbull. Redbull can easily recover from this setback as Mercedes has failed to fully capitalize on this.
Sometimes they try to be too clever for their own good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nitrodaze
like I said, it was clear to me that they should have gone into the pits.
I saw it after turn 3 on the warm up lap. And Toto is wrong.
They did not do the right thing.
If they pitted and everyone else did not, then they would have come out with a clear advantage, if everyone else had to come in after a lap to change over.
So they actually flipped a win-win situation to a loose-loose.
The stewards never fail to put a sour note on the events.
Hauling in Ocon and Vettel to their office for useless infractions.
Instead of standing with the LGBTQ community, they are going to side with a bigoted right-wing authority.
Well done FIA. laughable
FORMULA 1 ROLEX MAGYAR NAGYDÍJ 2021 - RACE RESULT
https://www.formula1.com/en/results....ce-result.html
'What a moment!' - Ocon jubilant after Hungary victory
https://f1i.com/news/414058-what-a-m...y-victory.html
France's Esteban Ocon wins Hungarian Grand Prix
Alpine pilot claims maiden F1 victory at Hungaroring Circuit in Budapest
Selcuk Bugra Gokalp | 01.08.2021
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/sports/fran...d-prix/2321325
Ocon credits Alonso’s ‘teamwork’ after incredible defending
by Ryan Wood
Hungarian Grand Prix race winner, Esteban Ocon, has credited Alpine team-mate and two-time Formula 1 World Champion Fernando Alonso for his part in the victory, as the Spaniard held off a charging Lewis Hamilton.
https://www.motorsportweek.com/2021/...ble-defending/
SEBASTIAN VETTEL
Vettel: A bit disappointed but Ocon didn't make a single mistake
1st August 2021, 16:40
Sebastian Vettel finished an impressive second in a chaotic Hungarian Grand Prix. Despite this surprise result, the German couldn't help but wish for more.
https://racingnews365.com/vettel-a-b...single-mistake
Sebastian Vettel "disappointed" with shock P2 finish
01-08-2021 16:18 | Updated: 01-08-2021 16:31
by Louis Shaw
Sebastian Vettel made the most of the bizarre Grand Prix to take a shock P2 at the Hungarian Grand Prix. The Aston Martin did everything he could and in the end was not far off Esteban Ocon which left the German feeling disappointed as the victory was in sight.
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/90556...p2-finish.html
Aston Martin to confirm Vettel deal for 2022
ANDREW MAITLAND
AUGUST 1, 2021
https://grandpx.news/aston-martin-to...deal-for-2022/
To be fair, it was braindead what Ocon did after the race. He knows full well he should have gone back to the pits. I am unsurprised, Ocon is not the smartest.
As for Vettel, he knew the procedure and should have removed the t-shirt. He has received a reprimand.
Maybe Alonso doesn't like Hamilton...Quote:
Originally Posted by truefan72
I wonder if this seals Bottas fate?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nitrodaze
Yeah it definitely wasn't a very good effort on Mercedes part today. Hamilton did a remarkable comeback drive after his opening mistake.
Red Bull wasn't to smart on strategy either. They still thought they were racing Hamilton and didn't recognize they were racing the rest of the field until it was to late.
First half of the season was entertaining. Hopefully the 2nd half will be just as entertaining. But Red Bull is in trouble. They will be taking a lot of grid penalties in the future for having to replace different stuff from all the accidents the last 2 weeks.
Mercedes will be delighted with bottas today, worked perfectly for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by F1nKS
Do you have any idea how embarrassing you are with these constant fanboy hissy fits?Quote:
Originally Posted by truefan72
How dare Alonso race for position. Especially against sir Lewis. Totally unfair and disrespectful.Quote:
Originally Posted by truefan72
Nothing wrong with what Alonso did today. He did go to the edge of what was acceptable but I think it was fine. He got his team the win and that was the big picture.
Vettel is under investigation over his fuel. In the past the penalty was disqualification. So Hamilton could move up.
Just need the Stewards to go review the early race footage and find something OCON should be punished for. I'm sure he did something during the crash to cause somebody else to crash or pulled something in the pit lane....then everything will be right with the world with Hamilton taking 1st place.
I've no doubt Hamilton wouldn't have passed Alonso were it not for his lock up. Alonso had him.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Black Knight
I think it took Hamilton a few laps to figure out how to take the last corner to get close down the straight. That's what cost him. It's not relevant now anyway as Hamilton forced his mistake and got 2nd.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe1888cfc
Vettel disqualified for failing to provide a fuel sample. Gutted for him and Aston Martin after such a thrilling race.
That is a shame for Vettel. It really is. I hope it has nothing to do with his protest in any matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Black Knight
Nothing embarrassing unless you watched a different race than the rest of us or you are only here to throw flames. I guess being on the wrong strategy as literally the rest of the grid and going from P1 to last is brilliance in your book. Don’t be foolish because you have some kinda bias.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Ben
Aston Martin to appeal Vettel's penalty- unlikely they'll be successful but worth a shot.
Congratulations to Sainz on the podium!
Congrats to Alpine, and their fans. I really hoped both would get to the podium, but it was not meant to be. Very nice of Ocon to thank 'Zo, without him blocking, Lewis would be quickly gone to the front. Nice in general to see the team spirit, this should be another boost for all of them.
Fettel disqualified........Sorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrry! :dork:
The fix is definitely in for Hamilton to win this championship.
Didn't Ocon and Russell run out of fuel as well or did they just stop their cars in random places and run to the pit lane?
I hope the appeal is successful.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Black Knight
I think Ocon and Russel stopped their cars to ensure enough fuel to measure.
I wish the Aston Martin team had told Vettel to do the same
A strange race to say the least. I watched it delayed, and was so glad to finally see a race at least start in the wet. Then turn one happens and send the entire field upside down pretty much!
Total bonehead by both Bottas and Stroll. They must have been on a totally different planet from the other drivers. Lewis, Max, and Perez were all looking cautious and out of harms way, and other than the midfield and back of pack bunch up everyone else looked to be in decent shape also. More than happy they both get penalties for the next race. Despite it not being that high of a speed, it certainly caused a lot of carnage. RB was lucky to keep Max in with the damage, and Lando and Charles weren't so lucky.
Speaking of penalties, strange that speeding is a stop and go, while an unsafe release that causes a collision is a lesser penalty. As for Seb's DQ, another one that sucks for the team.
While Merc blew it with being the only ones to not restart on slicks, they absolutely got it right with that massive undercut. So their strategy for the day more or less turned into a wash, even with the extra stop. Good drive through the field by Lewis, and really at that track staying fresher on tires was the right call, even against the slower cars. In the end it didn't get them all the way to the front but Alonso had tires fresh enough to protect for quite a while and give us some good viewing while at it.
Up front neither Ocon or Seb put a foot wrong, and though the pass never happened it certainly wasn't for a lack of trying. Good drive by Sainz as well, and he seemed to be the one to know Merc would pit again.