Rally Sweden 2022

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Originally Posted by AnttiL

Even if they start in Croatia it's 3 months away, lots of time to work.

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Yes Croatia is far and things could be better until there but my point was more saying that, until Portugal, it’s acceptable not to be there in WRC-2 when you are not a tarmac specialist (I was also considering Ostberg in the mix because, if Croatia makes some sense for Suninen, it is not a good option for Ostberg for example).

Beginning a full WRC-2 campaign after Portugal is harder with only 9 rallyes remaining, including 2 really expensive ones (NZ, Japan) + Kenya.

+ in an interview for Belgian site DH, Grégoire Munster, who is aiming the official Junior support from Hyundai (MC was a showdown to try to obtain it), was talking about Portugal for the beginning of Hyundai’s WRC-2 program.

Remember that Skoda did stop production of Rally2 cars, given reason was lack of parts.
(and new one is coming)
so I believe in those Hyundai lack of parts rumors

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Originally Posted by pantealex

Remember that Skoda did stop production of Rally2 cars, given reason was lack of parts.
(and new one is coming)
so I believe in those Hyundai lack of parts rumors

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AFAIK Škoda restarted the production few weeks ago. I think the issue was with the lack of chips. That's a global issue which stroke basically all industrial branches, of course also all motorsport sub-suppliers.

Whilst I'm waiting for the entry list I've found myself in Rally Guide 2 where it says it'll cost €100 excluding VAT to self-service wash a car. Is that normal?

Not many nordic privateers compared to other years.
If a privateer are to make a budget for a rally Sweden in a RC2 car he owns himself.
what will a total be in your opinion?

Aprox Budget Rally Sweden;

1. Entry fee 4000 €
2. Tyres
3. Fuel
4. Hotel/food for team
5. Other cost

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Originally Posted by WRCStan

Whilst I'm waiting for the entry list I've found myself in Rally Guide 2 where it says it'll cost €100 excluding VAT to self-service wash a car. Is that normal?

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€100 euros? Has to be a misquote. I would assume they mean 100 SEK (9.5€).

At OKQ8s petrol stations (UMEÅ) the cost is 149 SEK (14€) for automatic wash, 20 SEK (1.9€) for a quick wash and 2,5 SEK (0,23€)/minute for manual wash. So of you spend 60 minutes washing you car that would be 150 SEK (~14 €).

https://www.okq8.se/pa-stationen/tvatta-bilen/

Could be the case this is a temporary car wash, watering machine with water brought to service place. Plus, considering the eco - green stuff, collecting or filtering the waste water? Easy € 100 .

Enough car wash chat, the entries are now here: https://rallysweden.com/en/competitors/documents/

With Rally Sweden entry list published, we (eWRC-results.com team) introduce you new info in entry list menu. Hope you like.

https://www.ewrc-results.com/entries...y-sweden-2022/

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKNXr6jW...pg&name=medium

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Originally Posted by WRCStan

Enough car wash chat, the entries are now here: https://rallysweden.com/en/competitors/documents/

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So if I understand well, there are 8 crews in WRC3 Juniors, but only 4 of them eligible for WRC3 Open? Nice...

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Originally Posted by WRCStan

Enough car wash chat, the entries are now here: https://rallysweden.com/en/competitors/documents/

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There is exactly one 2WD car entered. Was there ever a WRC event without any 2WD at all?

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Originally Posted by Mirek

There is exactly one 2WD car entered. Was there ever a WRC event without any 2WD at all?

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Safari 2021 for example - https://rally-base.com/2021/safari-r...ized-to-start/

Huttunen can’t be WRC2 Junior

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKNx7YNX...pg&name=medium

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Originally Posted by Sulland

Not many nordic privateers compared to other years.
If a privateer are to make a budget for a rally Sweden in a RC2 car he owns himself.
what will a total be in your opinion?

Aprox Budget Rally Sweden;

1. Entry fee 4000 €
2. Tyres
3. Fuel
4. Hotel/food for team
5. Other cost

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PG Andersson calculated with 1 million SEK to enter (~95 k eur).

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Originally Posted by WRCStan

Whilst I'm waiting for the entry list I've found myself in Rally Guide 2 where it says it'll cost €100 excluding VAT to self-service wash a car. Is that normal?

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That was 100e per car for a wash card that one can use as many times as needed during the stay.

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Originally Posted by PLuto

Safari 2021 for example - https://rally-base.com/2021/safari-r...ized-to-start/

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And Turkey 2020

Good to see Bruno Bulacia moving up to WRC level.

I'm told he is very, very good.

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Originally Posted by MTA

PG Andersson calculated with 1 million SEK to enter (~95 k eur).

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And he used crowdfunding to get in parts of that, did he not?
How much of the budget did he get from that channel?

PG on top form is always quick in Sweden, so lets see how quick he gets in the Ford.

I see that SS2-5 is 27,81 kms long, i tought with the new reglementation maximum stage lenght was limited to 25 Kms?

Greensmith will prepare Sweden by taking part in the third round of the Norwegian Rally Championship with a Fiesta Rally2 (barring surprises as rally1s are allowed in Norway).

https://www.rallyeslalom.com/gus-gre...con-la-fiesta/

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Originally Posted by wwbroe

I see that SS2-5 is 27,81 kms long, i tought with the new reglementation maximum stage lenght was limited to 25 Kms?

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What?

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Originally Posted by AnttiL

What?

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Wasn't it said that maximum stage lenght would be 25 Kms? I tought i read this somewhere here before?
Because of hybrids?

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Originally Posted by Bartolbia84

Greensmith will prepare Sweden by taking part in the third round of the Norwegian Rally Championship with a Fiesta Rally2 (barring surprises as rally1s are allowed in Norway).

https://www.rallyeslalom.com/gus-gre...con-la-fiesta/

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Gus is coming to test the JWRC Rally3 cars on snow and ice before Sweden.
So it could be he is driving a Rally3 or MSport have challenges on the loose with their Rally2 Fiesta. That cartype have not gotten much attention from MSport Uk, since most engineers have worked on the Rally1 car.

Maybe it is time to give MSport Poland all customer car classes, and keep Rally1 only in the UK.

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Originally Posted by Sulland

And he used crowdfunding to get in parts of that, did he not?
How much of the budget did he get from that channel?

PG on top form is always quick in Sweden, so lets see how quick he gets in the Ford.

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Yes it is true. From what I understood, it was SEK 1 million that was needed that way, but there were several companies that went in with larger sums.

Latest news was that it was missing about 200k sek 17/1 and then 24/1 that he was registered.

http://www.pgandersson.se/Nyheter_20...gesrapport.htm

PG is very fast so it will be very interesting to see how fast he goes compared to the others in the WRC. I think he can surprise many as long as he stays on the road and the car does not break down.

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Originally Posted by MTA

Yes it is true. From what I understood, it was SEK 1 million that was needed that way, but there were several companies that went in with larger sums.

Latest news was that it was missing about 200k sek 17/1 and then 24/1 that he was registered.

http://www.pgandersson.se/Nyheter_20...gesrapport.htm

PG is very fast so it will be very interesting to see how fast he goes compared to the others in the WRC. I think he can surprise many as long as he stays on the road and the car does not break down.

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Sorry, he hasn't driven WRC cars for a long time and last time I saw him in Sweden in WRC he needed to take more risks than anyone else we saw on stages. He is that type of a driver. He is good to see for the eye but everything you said will not happen for sure.

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https://www.rally-maps.com/Rally-Sweden-2022

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Originally Posted by wwbroe

Wasn't it said that maximum stage lenght would be 25 Kms? I tought i read this somewhere here before?
Because of hybrids?

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Not in the regulations. Maybe in practice though very few 30km stages

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Originally Posted by AnttiL

Not in the regulations. Maybe in practice though very few 30km stages

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No. Interesting note is that FIA safety guidelines strongly recommend two 0-cars for stages over 30km long. Maybe it's even mandatory before they approve a stage in WRC, not sure. Not very practical for organizers.

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Originally Posted by cali

Sorry, he hasn't driven WRC cars for a long time and last time I saw him in Sweden in WRC he needed to take more risks than anyone else we saw on stages. He is that type of a driver. He is good to see for the eye but everything you said will not happen for sure.

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He should not drive a WRC car, but an WRC 2 that he has been driving for almost 3 years now in Swedish championship (first a Fiesta Mk I and last year an Evo) so he has quite a lot of experience with that car.

I agree that he takes risks but think that many may be surprised by his speed. If he just stays on the road, I think he can reach a very high position.
In several competitions in the Swedish championships he hade competed against Tideman and from what I can remember PG has won all of these.

I looked at PG's profile and he's done basically only Swedish National rallies since 2014, I'm not expecting too much

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Originally Posted by tommeke_B

No. Interesting note is that FIA safety guidelines strongly recommend two 0-cars for stages over 30km long. Maybe it's even mandatory before they approve a stage in WRC, not sure. Not very practical for organizers.

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It's been like this for years, for safety reasons. both start same time and cover half stage to clear the entire road in a limited span of time near to the start time.

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Originally Posted by Bartolbia84

Greensmith will prepare Sweden by taking part in the third round of the Norwegian Rally Championship with a Fiesta Rally2 (barring surprises as rally1s are allowed in Norway).

https://www.rallyeslalom.com/gus-gre...con-la-fiesta/

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E. Bryndilsen said on the second round of national championship yesterday that he recommended Greensmith not to meet up cause it's so difficult rally.

Østberg (who was commentator), said Greensmith will likely get decimated by the local guys.

Either way snow is Fiestas weakest surface and Greensmith doesn't have any good record on it either.

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Originally Posted by AnttiL

I looked at PG's profile and he's done basically only Swedish National rallies since 2014, I'm not expecting too much

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What´s the difference between Swedish National or International rallies? Both on Swedish ground and very same conditions.

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Originally Posted by mknight

E. Bryndilsen said on the second round of national championship yesterday that he recommended Greensmith not to meet up cause it's so difficult rally.

Østberg (who was commentator), said Greensmith will likely get decimated by the local guys.

Either way snow is Fiestas weakest surface and Greensmith doesn't have any good record on it either.

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He can do Valösprinten Sunday 13/2... 3 x 3 K. :) :)

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Originally Posted by Rallyper

What´s the difference between Swedish National or International rallies? Both on Swedish ground and very same conditions.

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I mean, he can win local rounds but is it enough for WRC2 level?

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Originally Posted by mknight

E. Bryndilsen said on the second round of national championship yesterday that he recommended Greensmith not to meet up cause it's so difficult rally.

Østberg (who was commentator), said Greensmith will likely get decimated by the local guys.

Either way snow is Fiestas weakest surface and Greensmith doesn't have any good record on it either.

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The Fiesta on loose is a hard car to get to work.
Anders Grøndal have tried hard, but can not get it to work. He said in frustration he was happy he had 1 stage and 1 rally left in the car. Then a new car.

But PG has gotten his MkII to work well enough the smash the swedish opposition on snow. So lets see how that adds up against the top WRC2 bunch!

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Originally Posted by AnttiL

I mean, he can win local rounds but is it enough for WRC2 level?

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It´s enough, for sure. It´s winter. Podium definately.

All respect for PG Andersson, he was a top WRC driver, who had his peak at the wrong moment (when nearly all manufacturers left). But for me it would be surprising if he can fight against guys like Mikkelsen and Gryazin who are spending time in a rally car pretty much every week.

Does anybody know how much will be a ticket for a single SS? I can see only festival passes in rally shop. Last years has been pretty hard traffic, better sit in one place the whole day.

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Originally Posted by Rallyper

It´s enough, for sure. It´s winter. Podium definately.

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For that he has to beat 4 out of
Mikkelsen, Gryazin, Lindholm, Huttunen, Veiby, Kaur
all have been very fast on Snow and/or RallySweden

Hard task, not impossible but hard.