Looks like the new 2022 standard roll-cage in the photos, so it could more than just a 'mule'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
The fitting of Puma panels, lights and badges may be fitted last.
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Looks like the new 2022 standard roll-cage in the photos, so it could more than just a 'mule'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
The fitting of Puma panels, lights and badges may be fitted last.
2022 test car in action:
https://twitter.com/lluis6/status/13...053336584?s=20
How the hell do they get in the cars? Will all rollcages look as stupid as this?!Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Can it be somehow attached to the door only? Otherwise I can't see how it is possible to get out..
It looks very weird indeed. For sure this is not the final rollacage spec., I guess it's only a way to add overall body stiffness which the new space frame will bring.
im sure this isnt the final roll cage design...
That doesnt seem very safe, imagine if the car catches fire, or submerges, how would you get out?
This new safety cell (roll-cage) could be right and only looks wrong in the Fiesta mule...
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/insid...lly1-car-test/
worth posting here as well, lots of small details in the article. Like the aero is supposedly in 2022 trim now.
The way I understand it it means the aero is "reduced" to 2022 allowed levels. Not that it's "tuned" into the final 2022 design.
yeah, that's what I meant. Like WRCWings said: Fiesta WRC 2017-spec, with no dive planes, no fender vents and no rear diffuser... that is, simplified aero version 2022
Are these new cars self charging or plug-in-hybrid? 3.9KWh battery seems pretty small.
Plug-in hybrid but the power coming from a renewable source.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
EVO Magazine:
"The battery will power an electric motor that will deliver around 100 kW power (approximately 130bhp).
An extra 130bhp over the IC engine's 380bhp means total power output will reach 500bhp, that means an even stronger acceleration, and higher speeds due to the availability of instant torque. Lessons have been learned from the infamous Group B cars, and despite the jump in power, the FIA will regulate how this power can be used. The teams will have control over battery boost deployment and benefit from it on particular parts of a stage, that will likely be predefined by the organisers. This is to make sure the competition remains equal and more importantly, safe."
So basically they are gonna create zones like DRS in F1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
They were presented as mild-hybrids, not plugin. IMHO plugin hybrid with such small battery makes little sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Is there (anywhere) confirmed that they will run the current restrictor? I doubt that. If no this math is wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
I read a rumor that the boost could only be used at stage starts and very slow corner exits. Possibbly they are scared it will be too much power to use elsewherr. Sad to see the competitive aspect of where to use the boost not utilized.
I don’t see them changing the restrictor. It would mean a lot of development work to get the engines working with a smaller restrictor. So far they’ve kept saying engines will remain the same.
However all that power and torque is of no use if they can't get the power down to the ground. If they use the electric power for slow corners and stage starts I'd love to see how the tyres hold up with the instant torque from the electric motors.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
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How can it have enough battery to run electric only through cities when it's only a mild hybrid?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
In a statement (re Rally 2 Cars) the FIA said its objective is "to demonstrate how existing road-car technology can be transferred into the motorsport arena, rather than the 'plug-in' hybrid performance-orientated system that is being developed for Rally1".Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
At least the new Fiesta doesnt sound like this... ;)
https://youtu.be/UUvKESK_8cA
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Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
True. My bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
I do find it a shame the drivers won't be allowed to decide for themselves where they want to use the boost, during a stage. Would make it more interesting and give the drivers something else to think about it.
meeeeh... Im still not buying into hybrid racing cars tbh. I mean, if they were pushing for electric cars for the WRC (not Rally2, ffs) I'd hate the lack of sound but I'd understand the reasons - But only if they had more freedom to explore and develop the technology. That would be interesting. But Lets be honest: Spec parts are NOT pushing development in anyway. And even so, Manufacturers are in Formula-e mostly because of "Marketing" and not necessarly to "develop road car tech". So.... I dont know. Top Motorsport championships are getting weird. Hope they dont mess up with Rally2.
I just saw wec saying it may need to reduce LMP2 performance even more(!) cuz they are still faster than the new Hypercars. This is pure nightmare.
How is this package going to work?
- is it plugin hybrid or is it charged up only from driving?
- How can the driver impact how it is used? Is anything said on how the battery management system works with the ICE?
- Is it only meant to be used on transport or also for instance on powerstage?
As it looks now this is only R&D, with a mini 3,9 KWh battery. That is not many km on fully electric.
As I mentioned some time ago this is similar size to batteries in Toyota non-plugin hybrids and more than enough to given electric boost during acceleration in most corners on a typical 10-15 min rally stage. Though for sure not enough for electric-only driving.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
As mentioned by others the really bad idea seems to be restricting the usage to only specific parts of stage. But we dunno how restrictive that will be. Best case is that they only block it in a few "dangerous areas", worst case is the opposite - only allowed in very few corners.
Apologies if I've missed the news but - what will happen to the current RC1 cars next year?
Will they still be allowed to compete in WRC?
For sure not. There are basically no private ones anyway.
Rally fans: Want privateers to be able to compete in the top class. Rally2 cars finishing in P8 is not enough. In fact it shows how the top class actually need more entries!
FIA/WRC: Nope... But Please continue watching.
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/hyund...enger-in-june/
Hyundai car should be tested in June
This is NOT about the hybrid rally1 cars but its is something interesting anyway.
"VW" just entered an electric SUV in a 1000km race in the Mexican Desert (NORRA Championship) and the car finished the event without any major problems! Im NOT a big fan of how FIA demands spec things like the batteries(!!) in Extreme-e and Formula-e because this is NOT how you develop new tech in motorsport.
Im WAY more into these things were manufacturers and racing teams enter in "open rules" classes to try something out. Im also curious about Audi's project for Dakar in '22.
Its nothing increeeedible considering they finished in last, basically... and they had to use a (still not entirely well described) portable biofuel generator for recharging.. But its always interesting to hear those stories.
Tanner Foust was the driver behind the wheel (rally winner in America / 3x US rallycross champion)
https://jalopnik.com/volkswagen-id-4...wit-1846807213
Is there any explanation of the fact that new generation will be only for three years? Is the Euro7, scheduled for 2025 for road vehicles, a factor for this small duration?
I think the FIA wants to decide it alongside F1 new engine regulations, which will also be new from 2025. I would be surprised if significant changes take place, it will probably be some fine tuning or something not related to the powerunitQuote:
Originally Posted by scn
Contrary to this, been a lot of rumours I've heard that Hyundai were in fact the first manufacturer to run tests on an early spec 2022/rally1 car. Maybe other people on here have heard similar?Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Take what Mr Adamo tells us with a pinch of salt....
It's all due to keeping the costs down.Quote:
Originally Posted by lmmjvss
100% sustainable fuels for 2022.
Its interesting
https://www.wrc.com/en/news/2021/wrc...sive-provider/