I suspect it's more that with the priority running order meaning that by default WRC2 is included in more of the international Live TV coverage, it's worth the extra cost of entry fees for the return on investment versus WRC3.
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I suspect it's more that with the priority running order meaning that by default WRC2 is included in more of the international Live TV coverage, it's worth the extra cost of entry fees for the return on investment versus WRC3.
If we look at the Monte entry list, we see a lot of teams entered. In the previous years only a handful of teams have participated.
Now there is Toksport, M-Sport, Sainteloc, Movisport, Sports and You, Hyundai Motorsport N (and will there be PH Sport with Mads later on?)
Maybe this is what is puzzling Jarek Z?
If WRC+ has 15 camera kits, then we will have five WRC2 drivers with an onboard camera. Not all of them can have one.
I think this is the most important thing. They have found that coverage and promotion of WRC3 is much lower than for WRC2. Or better, promotion is almost zero. On the other hand, in WRC2 you are registered as team, so you can nominate different drivers to different events...Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
Oliver is Hyundai´s only WRC2 entry for Monte...
so Veiby is doing less or different events.
How are the current regulations? There should have been two cars to score Team points...
"In order to score Team points any team registered in WRC2 must enter two (2) cars in a maximum of 7 rallies including a minimum of one rally outside of Europe."
My understanding is, that driver can score the points, when team doesn't. Here:
If only a Team’s
Driver and/or Co-driver want to score points on an event, or
if neither the Team nor the Driver or Co-driver wants to score
points on an event, a Team may also enter only one (1) car.
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Monte: 8 entries for WRC2Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom K
2 Teams have 2 cars
4 Teams have 1 car
Are all 8 allowed to score Powerstage points ?
How many is driving for WRC2 points ?
Who can score Teams points ?
Based on entry-list I don´t have right answers.
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Only teams who have 2 cars are allowed to score team points. But you are right, even teams that have 2 cars don't need have to score points and entry list says nothing.
The way I interpret it, all P2 drivers are eligible for WRC2 points. But only Toksport and Movisport can get team points?
Even die-hard fans are not sure how the classifications work. How is this sport going to attract new viewers?
i am too confused.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
How many new viewers join in to follow up the support series? :) In the main category it's still straightforward.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
I've not been arsed about wrc2 or wrc3 as much as I'd like to be - in terms of the titles. It's just ridiculous.
I just watch the times and leaderboard and keep check of all the top R5 times. Mikkelsen has it right, he wants to be the fastest R5 and dominate the car category - as a proper driver should.
To keep it simple; RC2 Champion.
Solberg and Gryazin are not nominated for WRC2 in Monte. They are P2 drivers but will not score points.
Gryazin's new livery can be found below. He is going to compete in WRC2. Where are his sponsors?
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Have you ever seen sponsors on his car? His family has the doughQuote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
Yes, but it was a long time ago:Quote:
Originally Posted by Essaj
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How do you read out that? Can´t see difference from Mikkelsen etz, in entry list.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lancia Stratos
There isn't any difference because a way of differentiating them was not included on the entry list.
But they are not.
That is not true. Usually, if you are not nominated to WRC2, you dont have written this championship at your name. WRC2 and P2 are different things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lancia Stratos
Yes they are, but this season WRC2 drivers can enter rounds for which they are not nominated to score and retain their P2 status. This is the case with Solberg and Gryazin. They should not have WRC2 alongside on the entry list and this will change.Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
Yes, if this will happen, than correct. But according to current entry list (approved by FIA) they are part of WRC2...Quote:
Originally Posted by Lancia Stratos
There is an AMENDED list now with mor detailled information about scoringQuote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
So, situation with Fourmaux, Camilli and Johnston is clear - only driver/co-driver. Toksport crews - Team + driver/co-driver, Gryazin - for Team but not for the driver/co-driver, but for the same Movisport Brazzoli for Team and driver/co-driver? :rolleyes:
Am I right?
Why complicate every year more?
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isnt a risky move from Oliver,if his ''good'' rallies cancelled?
Hasn't this been the same in the past years? You can nominate your events? In 2017 Camilli was the fastest R5 in Sardegna but didn't win WRC2. The difference is just that Oliver is using the P2 status.
And yes, it's risky if rallies start getting cancelled, like with Östberg in 2020.
On previous years, you could either be a P2 or non priority. I don't think it was possible to drive without scoring points and still have the P2 status. Only exception might be Monza Rally, after all the misunderstandings regarding regulations.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Yeah. In 2019 the WRC2Pro drivers didn't have to nominate anything since they could add up all the rallies they started in. I don't remember 2020 though, but there were so few rallies and no drivers with so big budgets that they would do extra non-nominated events that we didn't get to see any tactics played.Quote:
Originally Posted by Co-driven
Who in RC2 will be the surprize of Monte?
We have many locals, will one of them do the drive of their lives?
If it is dry - Bonato. And like last year: Camilli and Ciamin.
Dont forget they will be running on Pirelli now. Most of them were usually using Michelin. This should be also big difference.
If we will have snow/ice on the stages tomorrow, we will also see many combinations of crossing tyres - with many drivers using this technique for the first time, so we can see big time differences ss to ss depending what shoes the driver choose!
After just 6 stages Bonato lost already nearly 3 minutes to Mikkelsen. Ciamin is even slower...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom K
Bonato is strange, last year in Hungary he was minutes behind everywhere, then on Canarias in relatively similar conditions (slippery, but much less gravel) he was in top, now back to minutes behind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
If it is dry... Regardless of that, French guys are up to now quite big disappointment or the rest is much much better than last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
I wouldn't say Canarias were similar to Hungary. On the island even with rain the grip was quite good.