Can't wait for the first round of the PSA Cup un Belgium where the Corsa will be confronted to the 208 :D
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Can't wait for the first round of the PSA Cup un Belgium where the Corsa will be confronted to the 208 :D
Florian Bernardi will be course car in Monte-Carlo with Renault Clio Rally4.
Is a Rally4 PSA car 70 000 Euro now?
Read somewhere that the Opel was in that area.
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17-inch rims for asphalt-spec Fiesta Rally4 from March 2021! More responsive handling
OK hand
and grip
Fisted hand
. Larger rims mean larger brake discs; more stopping power
Stop sign
and reduced brake fade
in longer stages!
#MSPORTERS #Rally4ward
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Peugeot already had 17' rims I think. This change will help Fiesta to overcome the weight increase.
Is that for both Asphalt and Gravel undertrays, or just one?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sal the 2nd
Good thing they capped Rally3 at 100k euro!!
It has to be simiular to the fiesta Attachment 2026Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
And 9000€ for the other surface set.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sal the 2nd
for the Fiesta the conversion kit for other surface is 6649e excl. taxQuote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
It seems that Renault will present their Rally4 contender tonight, according to their facebook feed.
Edit:
Actually, here it is
https://scontent.flis7-1.fna.fbcdn.n...3d&oe=602AE134
if i remember correct it will be opener at Monte?
edit yeap
Renault Sport Series
@RenaultSpSeries
Introducing #ClioRally4
Designed without compromise
In action this week on the #RallyeMonteCarlo
https://www.cliorally.com/clio-rally...ur-gagner.html
Is it aprox 70 000 € for the Clio as well?
and a small clip with clio rally4 testing at snow
https://twitter.com/ThibaultPascal/s...02065222144002
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Ford Fiesta Peugeot 208 Opel Corsa Renault Clio Chassis Length 4065 4052 4065 4050 With 1735 1738 1727 1732 Wheelbase 2490 2533 2550 2579 Track F/R 1500/1490 Engine Size ccm 999 1199 1199 1330 Hp 210 208 208 215 Torque 315 290 290 350 Suspension Shocks Reiger Øhlins Øhlins BOS Springs Eibach Eibach Eiback BOS
Tech data for the 4 Rally4 cars as of 2021.
They have different characteristics and numbers - will they be very different in SS speed or evenly matched?
Sulland, after so many years you shall know that if there is something you never take seriously, it's official engine output values of rallycars.
:D I am a simple man from the rural areas, and I belive everything i read on the internet. Especially if there is a big carfactory that wrote it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Joking aside, I am very impressed by the outputs of these small engines, and lets hope they are not going where we see engines goes up in smoke all the time!
A Peugeot 208 Rally4 with last years restrictor was tested in a bank and put 234 bhp. I think they choose the 208hp just for marketing reasons!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
The main issue i have with these engines is their cost. They push those tiny engines to the limit while they could use a stock engine with the same power that will cost way less and last much longer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
For starter cars i always found that stupid. Make the rules so that they can use whatever stock production engine they want under 200bhp. Seal it after putting it on the test bench so that they are all equal. That would save massively in cost while not making the cars any slower.
My money will be on the Clio, especially on tarmac events (Rally4 field will probably be more leveled on gravel).Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
R2 Renault was one of slowest...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
R3(T) Clio was way slower than DS 3 ...
It would be great if Clio Rally4 is fast!
You're right on the R2, not so right on the R3; on tarmac the Clio R3T was probably the fastest 2wd car, before Rally4 models came out (on gravel, as most RS cars, it was a bit underdeveloped).Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
Agree, the Clio R3T is definitely faster car than DS3 R3T on asphalt.
on WRC level ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
I can´t remember any WRC3 wins with Clio
or are you talking about last 2-3 years ?
(when 90% of 2wd has been R2)
I admit that I know very little about tarmac rallies
It depended on the Clio, because there's a Client version of it. But I saw them on Var a few years ago and for comparisation Robert was driving a DS3 and got bit at least by Gigou. And they looked pretty impressive on their fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
Stéphane Lefebvre and Gilles de Turckheim will do the competitive debut of Opel Corsa Rally4 at Rallye du Touquet (19/20 March)
Original debut was planned to Spa Rally in December with Yoann Bonato.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Like course car?
There is another Corsa on the entry list as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Judging by the first stage of our season the restrictor didn't slow the Rally4 down noticeably.
According to this article the cost of a fully assembled car is €66,000 exc. VAT in asphalt or gravel spec:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
https://media.peugeot-sport.com/en/100EN
It's good to see that as many as 100 Peugeots 208 Rally 4 have already been sold. Car number 100 have just gone to Peru.
Have anyone taken a chance on the Corsa yet?
Renault Clio Rally4 was homologated yesterday:
https://www.fiaerc.com/new-renault-c...or-erc-action/
And it´s been a very strong debut for the Corsa! Mikkel Njor won the RC4 class. Also an excellent performance from Njor in his second season in rallying against some strong opponents.
Good to see that Denmark are getting in new talented young drivers into the sport.
And that the Corsa would get its first finish in Denmark would have given high odds!
Renault Clio Rally4 to debut in Italy at Targa Florio Rally with Paolo Andreucci, then in France at Le Toquet Rally
https://motorsport.motorionline.com/...-targa-florio/ (ITA)
Kia Rio Rally4 (1.0T 200hp) debut in portuguese Rally das Camélias.
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I guess it's only nationally homologated, right?
Right, like a Kia Picanto R1Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
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