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I came to post this exact thing, if the event gets canned I don’t know what he has to do....poor bloke.Quote:
Originally Posted by the sniper
let’s hope that things can work out for the event, and mostly for the locals affected by the fires of course.
Bush Fire map
https://www.unorthodox.com.au/fire/#...1573332413&v=1
Well I won't be going now. Will be helping fight fires. Ray
Seen some videos on news from fire fighters... Scary stuff. Keep safe.Quote:
Originally Posted by raybak
Sorry to hear that mate, all the best out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by raybak
Twitter forecast fire ratings for Tuesday. for NSW.
https://twitter.com/NSWRFS/status/11...ted%2F11690080
Just posted by Rally Australia Media Manager
https://rallyaustralia.com.au/rally-...will-go-ahead/
only 21 cars, #72 Molly Taylor withdrawnQuote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
since National event was cancelled, probably more will come, because no national points in offer.
The rally will be reduced to super specials.. I can't see them going into the forest now
If the rally runs in less than 75% of planned distance, points are halved. Hyundai would get closer to the title straight away
If points are halved it would be basically impossible for Hyundai to loose the title. Even with Toyota 1-2 they'd only need 6 points.
When you finish as last two manu cars you get 3+2=5 points (with half points being handed out). So even with two cars in superrally and one completely out they would still have very good chance.
Is this rally really going to take place?
It is a catastrophe warning out the coming week, with above 30 degrees, and strong wind incoming.
80 wildfires in NSW, all of firefighters is out in the forrests, no emergencyforces is "free" to attend the rally.
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It's also an ethical question. Should you be using those emergency people to hold a rally, while they could be helping citizens who's lives and homes are threatened because of these fires?
I would just straight up cancel the event, with all due respect to the WRC, these bush fires are way more a pressing matter at the moment, and NSW should be focusing that imho.
Well imagine it doesn't get cancelled and you get tv pictures of cars driving trough burn-out forests overlapping with tv coverage of people who lost their homes.
Great PR for all involved.
(Note: I have little idea how the situation actually looks like, just listing the worst case)
Yeah on the face of it, there doesn’t seem to be much of a case for running the rally.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
I saw a map of the known bushfires now and Coffs Harbour is basically surrounded, so even if some of the specific sections the rally is using are thus far unaffected, it doesn’t really seem right to hold an international sporting event in the middle of all of this.
Cancelled my car booking to drive from Sydney to coffs yesterday as the main road to drive there is closed because of the fires, I then booked flights to coffs instead. Then last night after I read more of the reports I have changed my flights to go on holiday somewhere else completely instead, this rally is done unfortunately. I have pretty much made every effort to go as I was very keen to attend but A) it’s not safe and B) won’t be much to spectate...
Can’t see many people causally going along to it.
this is whats left of it at the moment. waiting for FIA approval
https://rallyaustralia.com.au/wp-con...nication-3.pdf
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJEtyw-U...jpg&name=small
That is just one forest stage, half of Argents Hill, driven three times in both directions (Graces and Allens). The rest are super specials.
Both super specials are also made longer than they were supposed to be, possibly just added more laps.
The organizers probably lose a lot of money if they don't run any rally at all. I try to understand the situation in all aspects.
So with that Hyundai basically confirmed as manu champs because only half the points awarded?
What a joke
The circumstances are far from joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
But thank god the drivers' title was decided in Catalunya.
Just bin the event. I feel sorry the families affected by the fires, we should respect their struggles and how stretched the emergency services are.
There were only about 5 folk who attended the event anyway so it's no great loss to area as a whole (sorry to our aussie faithful). Scrap the event as it's nothing in the grand scheme of what's going on, and running super specials is a fucking pisstake anyway. The event has never worked and at least New Zealand will bring back classic roads, even if it again won't be very well attended. But it has the heritage.
Would like to see Australia back in another capacity at a later date, a WRC event should be able to work over there but hasn't really in Coffs if we looks at exposure etc.
I know. But the itinerary is the definition of a joke. They should have more respect - one, for the people suffering and the emergency services that have been pushed to the absolute limit ( as well as all the volunteers etc).Quote:
Originally Posted by Allez Andruet
And secondly, have some respect to the rallying community instead of putting on a procession of super specials padded out over 3 days ffs. Rallying means nothing in these circumstances, especially when the drivers title has been wrapped up as you mentioned.
I can not see the logic how this rally could take place in current situation. To take whatever amount of rescue service away from fighting with wild fires is not acceptable.
In general there is quite big risk that some rally car / spectator / whatever-rally-related may start new fire. If new fire starts, even if it's not started or related with WRC event, fingers start pointing to WRC event and it's easy to use it as "anti-campaign" against non-nature-friendly sport activity.
Just pull it; in the grand scheme of things, it is not important. It could become a PR disaster (for the event, and the sport) , so be proactive and cancel the event. All resources are needed to help fight the fires - not if a car goes off and goes up in flames.
Agree 100% with all the posts about it being cancelled. Those in charge will see it the same way. Only a matter of time before they can it, hopefully.
Well it challenges the typical statement of "you can't win in it on a Super special, but you sure can lose it" when almost the whole rally is set on super specials
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Imagine a situation similar to Portugal 2016 where Tanak and Paddon's accidents caused fires. I agree with other sentiments, rallying is not important in a situation this drastic.
Just cancel. Just do it.
Agree to wise words here. NSW is not the place to hold a WRC rally atm.
There's no point in running such a short rally on sss anyway.
Well, it is something for those who shows up for the super specials anyway.
But this means... It's primarily a tarmac rally now?
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Still half of the length are gravel forest stages and the super specials are mixed surfaceQuote:
Originally Posted by Katvala
If not a cancellation, maybe just run the SSS for the fans as a demonstration. Be a pity to do nothing after travelling all that way.
For fans... this is another part of the problem. As I understood (and sorry if I misunderstood) then road from Sydney is closed due to bush-fires, then how fans are going there? More fans, higher risk, more pressure for rescue service.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
ERC Hungary affected by biblical rain yesterday... now WRC Australia by wildfires.... maybe it really is the climate-change end of days for rally ! :(
Destination NSW is nearly complete tarmac.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Raleigh approx 50%
Sadly this is one of those horrible situations where whatever the organisation does will be wrong...
I guess my view is that if they can run that schedule safely without compromising any local requirements then that is the best of a bad set of options. Whether it should actually be a considered a WRC event however is another matter...
Just cancel the event, for both the safety of the crews and to attend the fires which are way more important at this point of time, as previously mentioned, they pretty much wrapped the championship back in Spain, I honestly don't know how can you run such an event when your country is literally on fire.