Permanent driver numbers for 2019 & beyond

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5th July 2019, 15:45
Franky

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Originally Posted by KiwiWRCfan

Hayden's autobiography is being released on August 20th

Isn't he a bit young for an autobiography? I know it all about financially maximising the situation, but still
5th July 2019, 23:10
dnb

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Originally Posted by Franky

Isn't he a bit young for an autobiography? I know it all about financially maximising the situation, but still

maybe he thought he is not gonna get more popular?
18th October 2019, 15:35
pantealex

#2 Mads Østberg
18th October 2019, 15:44
pantealex

So after 1st year:
2 Mads Østberg
3 Teemu Suninen
4 Esapekka Lappi
5 Kris Meeke
6 Daniel Sordo Castillo
7 Pontus Tidemand
8 Ott Tänak
10 Jari-Matti Latvala
11 Thierry Neuville
17 Takamoto Katsuta
18 Jouni Virtanen
19 Sebastien Loeb
20 Hayden Paddon
33 Elfyn Evans
37 Lorenzo Bertelli
42 Craig Breen
44 Fergus Greensmith
68 Marcus Grönholm
69 Juho Ville Matias Hänninen
89 Andreas Mikkelsen
92 Janne Tuohino

?? Sebastien Ogier (I have a feeling that he took #9, that´s why Loeb didn´t get/took it)

edit.forgot 1 name
19th October 2019, 01:15
KiwiWRCfan

Has number 2 ever been used previously by a driver who is not nominated for manufacturers points ?
19th October 2019, 06:28
AnttiL

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Originally Posted by KiwiWRCfan

Has number 2 ever been used previously by a driver who is not nominated for manufacturers points ?

http://juwra.com/ivory_coast_1992_entries.html

I believe this is the last time? Patrick Tauziac, Ivory Coast 1992. The rally was only for drivers championship.
19th October 2019, 10:08
Allez Andruet

Even in championship rallies for makes (pre-1995), it was rare for a privateer to start with a number < 5. Vatanen in Finland 1994 (3) is one example, but there are not that many.
19th October 2019, 13:23
AnttiL

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Originally Posted by Allez Andruet

Even in championship rallies for makes (pre-1995), it was rare for a privateer to start with a number < 5. Vatanen in Finland 1994 (3) is one example, but there are not that many.

Vatanen 1982 Finland, #1
19th October 2019, 13:25
stefanvv

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Originally Posted by pantealex

#2 Mads Østberg

It took some time a driver to pick #2.
19th October 2019, 13:29
Allez Andruet

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Originally Posted by AnttiL

Vatanen 1982 Finland, #1

And Röhrl in San Remo the year before.
19th October 2019, 15:05
pantealex

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Originally Posted by AnttiL

Vatanen 1982 Finland, #1

At that time last years rally winner got #1 but still it was rare for privateer
29th October 2019, 17:10
EstWRC

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Originally Posted by dnb

Whats Ogier's number (other than 1)

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Originally Posted by Allez Andruet

We'll never find out.

We will!

Any guess?
29th October 2019, 17:42
AnttiL

50 --> 5eb 0gier
53 --> 53B Ogier
13 --> Birthday of Andrea and Tim
12 --> His number in 2009
42 would be his JWRC number from 2008 but Craig Breen already picked that
29th October 2019, 18:23
Allez Andruet

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Originally Posted by Allez Andruet

We'll never find out.

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Originally Posted by EstWRC

We will!

http://giphygifs.s3.amazonaws.com/me...TiY8/giphy.gif
29th October 2019, 20:27
spiderem

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Originally Posted by AnttiL

50 --> 5eb 0gier
53 --> 53B Ogier
13 --> Birthday of Andrea and Tim
12 --> His number in 2009
42 would be his JWRC number from 2008 but Craig Breen already picked that

6 --> Number of championship but Sordo has it

Are the numbers fixed for multiple years?
29th October 2019, 20:30
AnttiL

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Originally Posted by spiderem

6 --> Number of championship but Sordo has it

Are the numbers fixed for multiple years?

I think they are. 8 was also his number at VW in 2013, the last time it wasn't 1. But that's Tänak's number...
30th October 2019, 16:25
pantealex

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Originally Posted by EstWRC

Any guess?

#9

(Loeb couldn´t take it because it was reserved for Ogier)
27th November 2019, 17:58
pantealex

so Toyota has 2 drivers without numbers, I´m still guessing

#9 Ogier

#13 Rovanperä (his Volvo has licence plate "KAL-13")
27th November 2019, 18:25
AnttiL

I could see Kalle taking something crazy like 99
27th November 2019, 19:35
able1

Ogiers number .... 16 taken?
Loeb has 19 (if i recall correctly)
9th December 2019, 14:19
pantealex

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Originally Posted by KiwiWRCfan

What number do we expect each driver to select as their permanent number ?
What significance does the number have to the driver ?

Only now some people noticed that WRC rule says:
"Seasonally allocated competition numbers"
so numbers can change from 2019 to 2020

I´m not expecting many changes.
10th December 2019, 10:51
PLuto

I should cancel this stupid rule.
10th December 2019, 11:04
Norm75

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Originally Posted by PLuto

I should cancel this stupid rule.

Really, is your real name Yves!
23rd December 2019, 11:52
Andre Oliveira

17 Ogier
69 Rovanperä
18 Katsuta

8 Ott (don’t pick the 1)
9 Loeb (changed from 19)
23rd December 2019, 12:13
Fast Eddie WRC

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Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira

17 Ogier
69 Rovanperä
18 Katsuta

8 Ott (don’t pick the 1)
9 Loeb (changed from 19)

Any significance to these number choices ?
23rd December 2019, 13:17
mknight

I see Kalle plans for every situation. Now we can easily read his number even when upside down.
23rd December 2019, 13:50
TypeR

Loeb posted on Instagram

Quote:

#9 @officialwrc 2020
23rd December 2019, 13:54
dodge33cymru

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Originally Posted by PLuto

I should cancel this stupid rule.

Someone definitely should do. I'm more disappointed that there's no #1 car this year.
23rd December 2019, 15:41
Fast Eddie WRC

Surprised Tanak and especially Hyundai dont want the #1 on their car. I thought they'd love taking it off Ogier after all the years he's had it...
23rd December 2019, 16:08
TypeR

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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

Surprised Tanak and especially Hyundai dont want the #1 on their car. I thought they'd love taking it off Ogier after all the years he's had it...

Hopefully he will change his mind.. Would be awesome to see him driving #1 car..
23rd December 2019, 16:26
er88

What is Tanak playing at..., run with #1 on your door while you can!
23rd December 2019, 18:40
able1

Im not surprised at all ... number 8 is his lucky number....
23rd December 2019, 18:52
Allez Andruet

Let's just get rid of these permanent numbers, ok? The single most annoying thing in rallying.
23rd December 2019, 19:17
Andre Oliveira

Agree. Stupid rule.
23rd December 2019, 20:00
mknight

I guess the idea was that spectators (tv/online especially) would immediatelly know what driver it is.

Problem is that the numbers are only from side/rear which you often see only in a split second or often not at all on dusty gravel.

However the teams actually fixed this themselves with putting the flags on the roof wents/different mirrors.
23rd December 2019, 20:34
Andre Oliveira

Rally is not circuit. We don’t need differenciate them like that. Bring back good old big white square numbers.
23rd December 2019, 20:55
rallyfiend

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Originally Posted by able1

Im not surprised at all ... number 8 is his lucky number....

I'm surprised Hyundai didn't make him take number 1.

They've certainly paid for it.....
23rd December 2019, 21:03
SubaruNorway

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Originally Posted by mknight

I guess the idea was that spectators (tv/online especially) would immediatelly know what driver it is.

Problem is that the numbers are only from side/rear which you often see only in a split second or often not at all on dusty gravel.

However the teams actually fixed this themselves with putting the flags on the roof wents/different mirrors.

Nearly impossible to tell the Toyota's apart sometimes by those tiny stripes on the mirror, i have to skip frames to see what car it is on the video, even missed a really good clip of Tänak on the Finland video because i thought it was one of the other Toyot's i already had in it :rolleyes:
The numbers help a bit, It's easy to remember Evans being 33, Mikkelsen 89
23rd December 2019, 21:32
m-ast

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Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira

Rally is not circuit. We don’t need differenciate them like that. Bring back good old big white square numbers.

In spectator point of view that should be the best thing but I think we will never get them back because sponsors go first as the actual format of numbers uses so many less space for the number.

Even in local championships here they have changed the rules to have the wrc-style numbers.

At least we still have them in historic events...
23rd December 2019, 21:34
Andre Oliveira

If WRC changed back to bigger ones, other champs go too.

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