Most of them are private and closed from public. But not sure how strict and where.Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
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Most of them are private and closed from public. But not sure how strict and where.Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
Many roads/stages are locked and unaccessible indeed, especially the ones in North-Wales (like Clocaenog, Alwen and Brenig). I think Gartheiniog, Dyfi, Dyfnant, Hafren and Myherin could be accessible.
http://www.dai-sport.com/grist-wales...b-stage-guide/
Nicky Grist stage previews
Been raining last night and BBC forecast also showing rain on Thursday.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Heard it for weeks here about an Indian Summer but it hasnt happened. It has rained on and off since August and I knew it wouldnt suddenly be dry for WRGB...
@CitroenRacing
Recce lunch brake under typical Welsh weather! ☂️ #WRC #WalesRallyGB #WRGB
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"The championship is still possible. Of course, we are not in the best position at the moment, but with 90 points still available and being 23 behind, it's definitely not lost."
Ogier had hoped for a revised engine specification aboard his Fiesta for GB.
While the new parts in the engine have been tested and demonstrated an increase in power, torque and efficiency, it remains to be seen whether the new hardware, which requires a homologation joker, will be fitted in time.
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/1...n-wales--ogier
"Many times in my career I have had luck with me, but now I am missing some of that."Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
we have had many debates here about that luck ;)
it wasnt luck,it was just thathe knew from recce where he could go out of road.https://www.petrolheads.gr/images/sm...rum/shifty.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
This is actually extremely funny (your stubbornness).Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Even after basically every driver said how much time they use watching the onboards from previous years and recce. You still don't believe that Ogier is telling the truth that he knew a corner in the field a few kms from his birthplace in Gap on a rally that he has driven 8 times or so and a stage that was driven for at least 3 years before was (relatively) safe to go off on a second run of the stage.
The full quote from Ogier is btw:
"We knew it was an open area but I wasn't expecting so much dirt on the road. On the winter tyre we understeered. Okay, I could take a risk there because I knew it was only a field on the outside. I had to try and do a bit more here."
Totally won't be able to remember there is open field on the outside given all the facts listed above. He doesn't say it was safe to go off, just that he could take a risk cause the corner was less dangerous than others (ex. next to many trees).
This is the corner:
https://www.google.com/maps/@44.4468...7i13312!8i6656
Being wrong is human. Repeating something again and again after proven wrong is....
dont repeat this stupid thing please.
Truth hurts. Easier to fire off random accusations.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
"While the new parts in the engine have been tested and demonstrated an increase in power, torque and efficiency, it remains to be seen whether the new hardware, which requires a homologation joker, will be fitted in time."
Hopefully they will, why the hell would they not ??
Mads Østberg
@MadsOstberg
Recce of Thursday Friday and Saturday is done. The thought of a dry @WalesRallyGB was nothing but a wet dream! #WRC #reccedays #citroenracing
Nice photo's of Skoda PET's, also including Rovenpera, Chris Ingram & David Bogie :
https://www.facebook.com/pg/rallysportmedia/photos/
Still no new rear aero on the other M-Sports... or is it due to the chassis linking ?
https://i.imgur.com/H6Dttpb.jpg
Should be old aero on all cars according to Martin Holmes. But Toyota has new engines.
Just noticed the long liaison back to the Service Park on Friday lunchtime - all the way from Slate Mountain to Deeside (103km) !
OK, its maybe also for the WRC guests/hospitality at the SP, but what about all the lower entrants. I bet they're not happy.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoW5R6HXsAEFnhI.jpg:large
I guess it's even more interesting to have the whole Saturday (nine stages) without service ;)
Give me a WRC rally that doesn't have a single 100 km liaison. I think Wales Rally GB has done a terrific job at reducing liaisons this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
You asked for it. Both Turkey and Germany. Didn't check others. But yeah, 100km is nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
what's the deal with new aero on Fiesta? Linked to chassis for GB or just not good enough?
It just seems a long liaison back to the SP for a 30 minute service and then off again for the afternoon stages.
The Saturday has a remote service in Newtown which makes sense.
I think they are only coming all the way back to Deeside on Friday to give the SP some action during the day.
Do you realize that remote service is only a tyre change zone? The crews won't be able to get the damages fixed or setups changed. They can only service by themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
But it's also true that having the cars in the service park is financially an important thing to the organizers.
About pointless liaisons, in Rally Sweden the Karlstad super special is 100 km from the service park, and that liaison is done twice during the rally. (Also 90 km from Vargåsen finish, making it 190 km of liaison at the end of Saturday just for the sake of the super special)
True. Seems that Mexico and Argentina are also quite compact events. Finland could also be, but the popular Saturday stages like Päijälä and Kakaristo are behind a ~100 km liaison.Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
Its 100km From Torsby service park to Karlstad not 190km.. So the same ass GB.
The Saturday just having a remote tyre-fitting and no service shows the return to the SP in the middle of Friday isnt really necessary.
Yeah, my route calculation was mistakenly from Vargåsen to Karlstad to Torsby. So that is the 190 km distance. Thanks for the correction :)Quote:
Originally Posted by torsteinrp
I bet the drivers are happy to drive extra 100 km to get their cars serviced. Also, remember that it's about 60 km from Slate Mountain to Clocaenog start. They would still have a long liaison in the middle of the day with service or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
The organisers can't win really. They got complaints in the previous years that the service park was under utilised for teams/guests etc. Sadly that's a modern consideration of rallying. They are soulless places really I spend as little time at the GB one as possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Does Mexico still have that ridiculous liaison where they put the cars on transporters to get from the Thursday night stage to Friday morning first stage?
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No, it was only in 2017. And it was only because VW dropped the sponsorship of the rally at the last minute so they needed Mexico City as an alternate financial backer. This year they didn't have to do it anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrJan
Service parks and super specials - they are not made for us who are so deep in the sport that we spend our free time talking on an internet forum about it. But these things are still important to the financial side of the rally, whether we like it or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
Need a bit more help please.Quote:
Originally Posted by noel157
The boy is heading down to Wales Thurs night with 3 friends. Just found out they've hired a motorhome, great for sleeping, not so good for travelling between stages. Anyway he's asked me if they have to use official car parks etc how many stages can they expect to see out of the 7/8 on Fri/Sat? I'm assuming they won't be trapped in once in a viewing area. Obviously leaving the stage after 20 cars or so (if they decide to do that). Would they get 3 in considering traffic etc?
It's going to be tricky, but I guess it depends on ho many spectators are going to watch this year (it was rammed last year).Quote:
Originally Posted by noel157
I'm planning on doing a bit of stage hopping, but I'm going to judge it when I get there I guess.
If you can get me your email, I will send you the miles-between-stages plan I have done and show you what may work as options on Friday and Saturday.
I remember this happened in Argentina one year (2011?), when they had a SSS in Buenos Aires Thursday night (which is ~700Km far from Cordoba) and they had to cancel all the friday morning stages as the cars did not arrive in time to get properly serviced and to the crews to leave SP. I remember being there and seeing the trucks arriving with the cars in the morning...
It also happened in Mexico last year.
so shakedown tomorrow...very crucial rally for all the championship contenders, maybe not so much for Neuville but if Tänak or Ogier doesnt do well and Neuville does then it will be very hard for them with just 2 rounds left.
I remember that last year Toyota struggled and Tänak, Ogier also did on Saturday when it was really polished and slippy, they just couldnt get the grip.
Ogier is the favourite for me with his great record here and good starting position. Interesting to watch Evans now that he has the same tyre as everyone but i dont expect any miracles from him.
Maybe Mikkelsen can surprise this time?
I think three is theoretically doable on Friday, but I really wouldn't want to try it in a motor home. Getting out of one full car park early (presumably from the top of the car park) and arriving at another late can be a bit dicey even in a small car.Quote:
Originally Posted by noel157
The official spectator areas all allow access back to the car park at any time, as far as I know. Some having marshalled stage crossing points to allow this. Just got to get around all the spectators.
Nearly there now folks. Looks like we might just get a bit of rain or drizzle in the morning. BBC maps showing a little blue blob just over Llyn Brenig, special order!
I dont mind the SP at all and quite enjoy the atmosphere. I'll be calling there this year as there's an access tour for M-Sport Supporter's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
But I just think the route could've been better organised so as not to require a 100km drive back to service from the furthest point on Friday.